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Fiddler
12-05-2004, 01:11 PM
No reads on these guys.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Should I raise QJs after one limper? After two?

Flop: (7 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero ???

What is the play?

naphand
12-05-2004, 05:23 PM
I would limp after 2 limpers, raise first in (obviously) but a raise after 1 limper would be more opponent specific, but certainly you would want to raise QJs after 1 limper a decent proportion of the time. Don't ask me to define "decent", it's your bag.

The River is a tough call, I fully expect to see a trash A here most of the time, but MP could be betting a Q enough times and no longer believes you have an A (you checked Turn, looks like a flush draw doesn't it?). The pot gives you 7.5:1, so this does have to be more than a bluff-catcher, which it looks like it is. Call, but I squirm when I do.

Jdanz
12-05-2004, 05:35 PM
you induced a bluff, no hand that wasn't beating you on the flop is beating you now, i think this is a fairly standard call.

-JDanz

naphand
12-05-2004, 05:36 PM
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no hand that wasn't beating you on the flop is beating you now

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Good point.

Fiddler
12-06-2004, 10:58 AM
I called, SB raised all-in which was only $0.5 extra I think. Both MP and I called that. SB showed KK and MP had A3o.

spider
12-06-2004, 01:00 PM
bet the turn

girgy44
12-06-2004, 02:05 PM
I agree bet the turn without a doubt, call the river in your situation.

Fiddler
12-06-2004, 03:52 PM
Right, that was wimpy of me and I would probably have gotten to the showdown for less too.