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TStoneMBD
12-04-2004, 03:23 AM
<font color="red">Scroll to the bottom for the question if you choose not to read about myself. </font>

While I hate this description, I guess you could label me a professional poker player. I am 19 years old turning 20 in January and play regularly at Turning Stone Casino. I've been playing for a living for 6 months and things are only getting better for me. I play 15/30 regularly and am slowly moving up the ranks as I get better. I aspire to become the best player I can be, and if I have the potential to become world-class I don't want anything holding me back. Now that I've shared a little about myself maybe you can help me with my dilemna.

While I am 19, I look fairly old. Most people are shocked to hear that I am in fact 19. The average age people assume me for is probably 28. I've been to Foxwoods twice, Taj once and Borgata twice as well. Recently, I went to the Borgata to play 10/20 and found the games to be immensely easier than the ones I had been playing in at Turning Stone. Players were extremely passive-like calling stations with an average of 6-7 to a flop. There would only be a raise pf approx 10% of the time. Out of 5 tables I witnessed, all possessed these characteristics. With the blessing of a good string of cards, I was able to have a very successful trip.

Currently I live in upstate NY, and I would like to move down to AC. I realize that I only have a year to go before I would be of legal age, but I feel that TurningStone is holding me back as their games are more difficult and they are only spreading mid-high stake limit games for limited periods of time as they dont have many regulars. It is an aspiration of mine, and maybe a difficult goal to achieve, but I would like to be the youngest player to ever win a WSOP bracelet. I feel that if I was able to move to the Borgata, the likelihood of my goal coming true would be much more likely.

In order to play in Borgata tournaments, they need you to obtain a membership electronic card. I can easily borrow one from a friend and use it on a regular basis and they should not be the wiser. I may go a year there without being carded, but the risk of moving down there only to be permanently banned seems to be too high risk. If I was to win a tournament they would almost certainly want ID.

The question:

Am I risking alot by using a fake id to play at the Borgata? I am not sure what the penalty is for being caught with such a felony, and would the Borgata even enforce this law? If the fakeid would in fact work, would some poorly made ID from some random college in Michigan be enough? Or, would they want a drivers license? I'm strongly considering taking this route but I'd like to hear some opinions on the matter before I make a decision I regret. Does anyone have any alternatives that may better suite my needs?

Thanks for helping me out here. Much appreciation.

phixxx
12-04-2004, 05:07 AM
No offense, but what WAS the point of mentioning you being a pro and wanting to win a bracelet? Seems kind of off topic...but I don't think its worth risking a lifetime ban to play a year earlier than you should. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Play at TS for a year, tough out the poor game selection and move when you're ready. You still have alot of time, and the tougher games may improve your game before making your move to AC.

GL though /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Michael Davis
12-04-2004, 05:26 AM
The alternative that makes the most sense is playing online. Even if you are only mediocre you can earn more than expert players playing commonly spread live limit games.

-Michael

phixxx
12-04-2004, 05:30 AM
He's clearly mentioned though that he isn't mediocre..:[

Ellis
12-04-2004, 06:48 AM
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I am not sure what the penalty is for being caught with such a felony, and would the Borgata even enforce this law?

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I'm pretty sure that there are signs indicating if you're under 21 you'll be arrested, no questions asked.

Swampy
12-04-2004, 08:47 AM
If the casinos catch you gambling, all they're likely to do is confiscate your stake -- some will even cut you a break by asking what your buy-in was and return that to you. They don't want to see you arrested because they can be assessed civil penalties for allowing you at the tables in the first place.

Underage gambling is not a felony, as someone else suggested, at least not in New Jersey. It's considered a disorderly persons offense, punishable by up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. I've never heard of anyone receiving the max sentence. Unless you are a chronic violator, you'll probably get off with a fine or a suspended sentence. The Division of Gaming Enforcement will conduct sting operations from time to time; they usually make around 200 arrests per year. Whether the risk is acceptable is entirely up to you.