Where you rank Bonds all time

[Joe_d72]

[ThaSaltCracka]

Bonds is the best player in the past 30 years. Before him Mays/Mantle were the best, before them it was Ruth. Case closed Matlock.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

None of the above. I rank him as a cheater and a fraud. If his superhuman abilities were obtained legitimately, I'd put him in the top 5 for sure.

[ThaSaltCracka]

you are being totally absurd, seriously. He won 3 [censored] MVP awards waaay before anyone ever said anything about steroids.

[jesusarenque]

He is the best player ever not named Babe Ruth.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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[Paluka]

I put him top 5, although you could easily make an argument for top 3 or top 10. This is all excluding pitchers too. Ruth is cleary the greatest. After that you can argue all sorts of stuff about Bonds, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, or even Lou Gehrig.

[Non_Comformist]

Before yesterday top 3,

I honestly don't know now. Too early to get a fair reaction.

[ThaSaltCracka]

Question, what if Bonds took steroids, unknowingly? This was the same line Sheffield used, and I am just curious, how you guys feel about this. If we find out someone else provided Bonds with steroids, but he did not know they were steroids, does that taint his career?

[Blarg]

I think a lot of you guys are kidding yourself big time if you don't think a big percentage of pro athletes don't take steriods or haven't taken them in the past, and lots of amateurs who want to be there as well. This is a business, not a game, and most people would probably do what it takes to get ahead. That even the guys at the top of the heap think they should or have to only proves that point.

It seems unfair to single out Bonds for criticism, as if he's an exception. Our own esteem that me might want to take away when we find out some guy is on steroids is the same esteem we might have denied them without the steroids, and the same esteem we probably routinely give to dozens of other athletes on steroids. The respect of a fickle bunch of bastards like us isn't worth that much.

[ThaSaltCracka]

good post.

[andyfox]

I voted for him in the top five, although he might well be in the top three. The only players who I think are clearly greater are Ruth and Honus Wagner. I'm unsure about Mays, Walter Johnson, and Ted Williams. I think Bonds is ahead of Mantle, Gehrig, Cobb, Hornsby, Dimaggio, Aaron and Musial.

[emonrad87]

Where's the selection for "cheater"? Or maybe "stupid", if you buy that he honestly didn't know he was taking steroids.

[theBruiser500]

i own all of his rookie cards

[jwvdcw]

Wheres the #1 option?