I received Super System 2 from Doyle's Room today

[cab4656]

Anyone else?

I hope our resident Doyle's Room manager-bugger, KingMarc, got his. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[MaxPower]

How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

[cab4656]

UPS

[KingMarc]

(13:24:10): Please wait... contacting available host.
(13:24:20): Chat session opened with steph-host.
steph-host (13:24:23): Hi, welcome to our poker room. How can I help you?
KingDVL (13:24:29): hi has supersystem 2 shipped yet
steph-host (13:24:49): no in two or three weeks

(08:19:26): Please wait... contacting available host.
(08:19:29): Chat session opened with Carmen-host.
Carmen-host (08:19:32): Hi, welcome to our poker room. How can I help you?
KingDVL (08:19:37): Hi, has supersystem 2 shipped?
Carmen-host (08:19:50): will be shipped by the end of next week
Carmen-host (08:19:57): sorry for the delay
KingDVL (08:20:05): ok, thanks for your help

lalalala

[cab4656]

Here's the chapter listing for all you curious folks:

*Spoilers forthcoming if you care about such things*




Foreward by Avery Cardoza
Preface by Johnny Chan
1. Introduction by Doyle Brunson
2. My Story by Doyle Brunson
3. The History of No-Limit Texas Hold Em by Crandell Addington
4. Online Poker by Doyle Brunson
5. 43 Exclusive Super/System 2 Tips from Mike Caro University by Mike Caro
6. Specialize or Learn them All? by Steve Zolotow
7. Limit Hold Em by Jennifer Harman
8. Omaha Eight-or-Better by Bobby Baldwin
9. Seven-Card Stud High-Low Eight-or-Better by Todd Brunson
10. Pot-Limit Omaha High by Lyle Berman
11. Triple Draw by Daniel Negreanu
12. Tournament Overview by Doyle Brunson
13. No-Limit Hold Em by Doyle Brunson
14. World Poker Tour by Steven Lipscomb
15. Glossary

The whole book is 672 pages long. I can't wait to read this.

[maurile]

What are the first six words on page 51?

[jakethebake]

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How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

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Good Lord! You'll belive anything won't you. I'll send you $1 million if you'll wire me $1,000 today. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jakethebake]

Yes. That was a joke. I won't send you $1 million. But send me the thou anyway.

[cab4656]

Other interesting stuff:

Chip Reese and Barry Greenstein were rumored to be involved with SS2. Apparently they were not. They did not write a section. Also, SS2 has cariacatures of all the authors like SS1 did. The insider front cover has a cariacature of all the authors sitting around a table. No Greenstein or Reese.

Also absent is the section on Chinese Poker which I recall being mentioned in the past.

[cab4656]

This picture from Doyle's Room shows what the book I received looks like:

http://www.doylesroom.com/images/SS2.gif

This picture from Amazon that I'm sure we've all seen a bunch of times has some incorrect info in it:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1580421369.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[cab4656]

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(13:24:10): Please wait... contacting available host.
(13:24:20): Chat session opened with steph-host.
steph-host (13:24:23): Hi, welcome to our poker room. How can I help you?
KingDVL (13:24:29): hi has supersystem 2 shipped yet
steph-host (13:24:49): no in two or three weeks

(08:19:26): Please wait... contacting available host.
(08:19:29): Chat session opened with Carmen-host.
Carmen-host (08:19:32): Hi, welcome to our poker room. How can I help you?
KingDVL (08:19:37): Hi, has supersystem 2 shipped?
Carmen-host (08:19:50): will be shipped by the end of next week
Carmen-host (08:19:57): sorry for the delay
KingDVL (08:20:05): ok, thanks for your help

lalalala

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Didn't you say in a previous post that they were shipping from Costa Rica? Mine came from:

Malloy - Cardoza Publishing
(734) 665-6113
5411 Jackson Rd.
Ann Arbor, MI 48103

It might explain why I received mine faster than many people. Ann Arbor is very close to where I live. I'm guessing it's not shipping from Costa Rica, but instead from various warehouses across the country.

[DyessMan89]

Thanks Cab.

It all looks good. So, when is this available to purchase for everyone, again?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

I'm really excited to read the triple draw section and PL omaha sections. maybe i'm just odd.

[KingMarc]

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(13:38:52): Chat session opened with Host-Cathy.
Host-Cathy (13:39:00): hi
Host-Cathy (13:39:03): how can i help you?
KingDVL (13:39:05): Hi, I'm a bit confused
KingDVL (13:39:14): I was told supersystem 2 will not be shipping for another week or two
KingDVL (13:39:25): But my friend just received his copy today
KingDVL (13:40:02): and scanned me some pages to prove it
KingDVL (13:40:06): so im quite confused
Host-Cathy (13:40:15): there's been a huge demand for the book
Host-Cathy (13:40:23): i do know that some players will have to wait another week or 2
KingDVL (13:40:35): but some have had their shipped already?
Host-Cathy (13:40:41): he may have been one of the earlier ones to qualify for it
KingDVL (13:40:57): so it was sent out in order of completion oif the 10000 points?
Host-Cathy (13:41:07): im not entirely sure but could be
KingDVL (13:41:17): that clears up a lot
KingDVL (13:41:19): thanks for your help
Host-Cathy (13:41:28): np ur wekcome
Host-Cathy (13:41:32): welcome*

[cab4656]

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(13:38:26): Please wait... contacting available host.
(13:38:52): Chat session opened with Host-Cathy.
Host-Cathy (13:39:00): hi
Host-Cathy (13:39:03): how can i help you?
KingDVL (13:39:05): Hi, I'm a bit confused
KingDVL (13:39:14): I was told supersystem 2 will not be shipping for another week or two
KingDVL (13:39:25): But my friend just received his copy today
KingDVL (13:40:02): and scanned me some pages to prove it
KingDVL (13:40:06): so im quite confused
Host-Cathy (13:40:15): there's been a huge demand for the book
Host-Cathy (13:40:23): i do know that some players will have to wait another week or 2
KingDVL (13:40:35): but some have had their shipped already?
Host-Cathy (13:40:41): he may have been one of the earlier ones to qualify for it
KingDVL (13:40:57): so it was sent out in order of completion oif the 10000 points?
Host-Cathy (13:41:07): im not entirely sure but could be
KingDVL (13:41:17): that clears up a lot
KingDVL (13:41:19): thanks for your help
Host-Cathy (13:41:28): np ur wekcome
Host-Cathy (13:41:32): welcome*

[/ QUOTE ]

You were the one who told me about the deal and you completed your 10000 points before me. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[KingMarc]

I know it's depressing. You're the first person in the entire world to receive it, besides Doyle and crew, and Cardoza and crew. You are special!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /images/graemlins/cool.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DyessMan89]

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I'm really excited to read the triple draw section and PL omaha sections. maybe i'm just odd.

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I dont care about the Triple draw section, but Im probobly most excited for the PL Omaha section. Not enough good books/readings on PL omaha, hopefully this one will be good.

[jakethebake]

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I know it's depressing. You're the first person in the entire world to receive it, besides Doyle and crew, and Cardoza and crew. You are special!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /images/graemlins/cool.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I'm sure if you read the whole thing tonite, you can take advantage of those of us still waiting for ours. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MaxPower]

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How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

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Good Lord! You'll belive anything won't you. I'll send you $1 million if you'll wire me $1,000 today. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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OK, he got me. Its not that implausible to believe his statement. Doylesroom is sending out the books. I just didn't know when. I don't follow all the gossip.

[cab4656]

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How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

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Good Lord! You'll belive anything won't you. I'll send you $1 million if you'll wire me $1,000 today. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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OK, he got me. Its not that implausible to believe his statement. Doylesroom is sending out the books. I just didn't know when. I don't follow all the gossip.

[/ QUOTE ]

What are you guys talking about? I don't follow; the reply doesn't relate at all to the original question. Anyways, as I said above, it was sent UPS.

I have read through most of the sections that aren't on a specific game. Doyle's updated story and the history of NLHE are both pretty good reads. Doyle's online poker section is good, but he mainly lists the advantages and disadvantages of playing online, which most of us already know. I took a quick look at the limit hold em section, but the only thing I really noticed so far was that it has you playing pretty tight up front preflop. I also read a chunk of the triple-draw lowball section, mainly cause that's a game that I have no clue about and because I've enjoyed reading Negreanu's articles on his web site. It looks like some great info, but what do I know about that game?

I think the "43 tips from Mike Caro University" section is GREAT. It is a summary of a variety of concepts, some simple but others fairly advanced, covering topics from bankroll management to tells (and of course, poker strategy). Each tip is shown in a little snapshot (it looks like this was a PowerPoint presentation initially) making it easy to simply check out the tips without reading each tip's description. This is a great way to reinforce some concepts that we all forget now and then.

I think I might check out the pot-limit omaha section next. But I don't know. There is so much information in this book. It's gonna take forever to absorb all of this.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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8. Omaha Eight-or-Better by Bobby Baldwin

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HUH? Bobby is not too busy from his job as COO at MGM Mirage to write a chapter? I thought he isn't playing much lately.

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

[bilyin]

There is no stud? Maybe that game is dying.

[cab4656]

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8. Omaha Eight-or-Better by Bobby Baldwin

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HUH? Bobby is not too busy from his job as COO at MGM Mirage to write a chapter? I thought he isn't playing much lately.

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

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Upon further inspection, Mark Gregorich helped write it, though Baldwin still receives most of the credit.

[Beach-Whale]

Do you have any page numbers for the chapters, to give a sense of the sizes of each?

[kevyk]

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graham-host (00:22:02): hi,how can i help?
kevyk (00:22:46): Hello. I've heard that some of the first SS2 books were sent out, but some people have to wait...how can I find out if I'm one of the lucky 1st recipients?
graham-host (00:23:17): the books have not been sent out yet, there has been another delay
kevyk (00:23:44): really? a friend of mine has received his copy
graham-host (00:24:15): as far as we have been informed they are still at the printers
kevyk (00:24:25): well, thanks anyway
graham-host (00:24:29): np

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Worthless.

[cab4656]

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Do you have any page numbers for the chapters, to give a sense of the sizes of each?

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Chapter # --- Chapter Title --- Starts on this page

Foreward by Avery Cardoza 17
Preface by Johnny Chan 25
1. Introduction by Doyle Brunson 29
2. My Story by Doyle Brunson 39
3. The History of No-Limit Texas Hold Em by Crandell Addington 69
4. Online Poker by Doyle Brunson 85
5. 43 Exclusive Super/System 2 Tips from Mike Caro University by Mike Caro 115
6. Specialize or Learn them All? by Steve Zolotow 193
7. Limit Hold Em by Jennifer Harman 203
8. Omaha Eight-or-Better by Bobby Baldwin 283
9. Seven-Card Stud High-Low Eight-or-Better by Todd Brunson 361
10. Pot-Limit Omaha High by Lyle Berman 415
11. Triple Draw by Daniel Negreanu 463
12. Tournament Overview by Doyle Brunson 517
13. No-Limit Hold Em by Doyle Brunson 527
14. World Poker Tour by Steven Lipscomb 631
15. Glossary 654

[Moyer]

Please God, will someone read the limit hold'em section and tell us if it's any good? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Moyer]

BTW, how long did it take you guys to get the 10,000 action points for the book? Did you play limit or no-limit?

I'm just now looking at the software and I see that it's 9-handed tables and they only allow me to have two tables open at the same time.

[cab4656]

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BTW, how long did it take you guys to get the 10,000 action points for the book? Did you play limit or no-limit?

I'm just now looking at the software and I see that it's 9-handed tables and they only allow me to have two tables open at the same time.

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It took me maybe three or four days of playing 2/4, 1/2, and .50/1, whenever there were games going. I also played sit and goes while I played the ring games. If you play sit and goes I believe it lets you have more tables open at one time. They have turbo SNGs which can become a total crapshoot, but I imagine if you're decent you still have a slight edge over the fish there and you rack up points real fast.

[theredwave]

Did you cashout from this site successfully? It is under the Apex network and I have been having problems with them lately over one of my cashouts at another skin.

[Al Mirpuri]

Is it the classic that Supersystem was? Will it become a must purchase for poker players?

[kevyk]

I still want to know how many books have been sent. Was this some kind of error? Otherwise, I think we can expect to see more 2+2ers reporting that they have the book.

[maurile]

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Did you cashout from this site successfully?

[/ QUOTE ]
I made a withrawal. It took about three business days for my withdrawal to be transferred back to FirePay (which is how I made my deposit).

[KingMarc]

450-550 books have been earned so far. About 50-100 have been shipped, with those competling the 10k action points first, receiving theirs first.

Although each of the three statements above are speculation, they are 80-100% accurate.

[Nagoo81]

I thought that Johnny Chan was going to write about Chinese Poker. Oh well.

To those who have the book, does the cover still have ‘Danny Negro” as a contributor?

[KingMarc]

www.doylesroom.com (http://www.doylesroom.com) for the cover

[Voltron87]

When does this ship to stores?

[KingMarc]

March or so.

[Quaalude]

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I still want to know how many books have been sent. Was this some kind of error? Otherwise, I think we can expect to see more 2+2ers reporting that they have the book.

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Just got mine today - Black hardcover, no dust jacket. Nifty.

[Blarg]

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There is no stud? Maybe that game is dying.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's been dying for years.

Then again, maybe they just didn't want to show up Chip Reese by getting another 7-stud offer in, and maybe they had something bad happen with him so they couldn't or wouldn't include him or his 7-stud section in an update. Shame, his section in the original was damn good.

[cab4656]

I think the reason that there isn't a plain old stud section is because there is one in the original Super System. It says somewhere in the new book that SS2 is not meant to replace SS, but to be a companion volume to it.

That makes sense too. The only games that are duplicated between the two books are limit hold em and no limit hold em. It makes sense to have a new limit section as the blind structure has changed since the original publication. However the new NLHE section is basically a reprint of the old NLHE section with a few tips and comments thrown in. I think Doyle just couldn't put out a book without a NLHE section.

[vinnox]

Is every other word in bold like the original?

[BellyBuster]

I think unfortunately poor Danny was dropped from the final draft. He was, apparently, gutted.

[BellyBuster]

Took me about 6 hours playing 3 tables of aggressive shorthanded 3-6 limit. The only reason I mention the aggressive bit is that I think the amount you bet/raise in a given pot increases the AP you get. Shorthanded obviously lends itself to clearing the bonus anyway by increasing the number of hands you will play/hr.

Once you have opened two tables rather than trying to open a third stick yourself on the waiting list for another and when you click to be taken there it will open. Not sure if this will work for more than three because I didn't try. I only founf this out by accident as I was on the waiting list for a few tables and was already playing two when it popped up about a thrd and I thought it was worth a go.

[byronkincaid]

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However the new NLHE section is basically a reprint of the old NLHE section with a few tips and comments thrown in.

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Really? It's not worth me buying it then. Gutted.

[Luv2DriveTT]

No he wasn't, he wrote the tripple draw section.

TT

[kagame]

if the new NL holdem section isnt really innovative im going to be really disapointed and angry

can anyone give feedback on the triple draw section? i just started playing it and need instruction, love the game

[cab4656]

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However the new NLHE section is basically a reprint of the old NLHE section with a few tips and comments thrown in.

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Really? It's not worth me buying it then. Gutted.

[/ QUOTE ]

In the interest of complete information, here's exactly what Doyle says:

"So I sat down to revise this chapter, to bring it up to modern day standards. But you know what? I hadn't read my own advice for fifteen years, and when I sat down to examine it, I just kept nodding my head in agreement and muttering, "Damn, that's good!" ..... "I've added new thoughts and expanded some of the ideas, but the core concepts remain as valid and as profitable today as ever. So, here is my up-to-date advice, blending the previous tips and the tactics that will always with at no-limit hold'em with some new insights I hope will earn you extra money."

He goes on to say that while he had to change his game because other players knew what he was doing, the same strategy should be profitable for the reader.

[jakethebake]

How incredibly disappointing. It really sounds like he was too lazy to write something new. If he was goinna do that, he should have just gotten someone else to write it. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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However the new NLHE section is basically a reprint of the old NLHE section with a few tips and comments thrown in.

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Really? It's not worth me buying it then. Gutted.

[/ QUOTE ]

In the interest of complete information, here's exactly what Doyle says:

"So I sat down to revise this chapter, to bring it up to modern day standards. But you know what? I hadn't read my own advice for fifteen years, and when I sat down to examine it, I just kept nodding my head in agreement and muttering, "Damn, that's good!" ..... "I've added new thoughts and expanded some of the ideas, but the core concepts remain as valid and as profitable today as ever. So, here is my up-to-date advice, blending the previous tips and the tactics that will always with at no-limit hold'em with some new insights I hope will earn you extra money."

He goes on to say that while he had to change his game because other players knew what he was doing, the same strategy should be profitable for the reader.

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[turnipmonster]

the old NL section in SS remains the best thing ever written about the game. furthermore, as evidenced by a lot of posts on the past on 2+2, very few people who read the section actually understand what he is saying and advising to do, and instead they think doyle just bets every flop.

I am looking forward to seeing what improvements he has made, but I wouldn't expect complete innovation. so much of larger big bet games are player dependent, which is what I would assume doyle is writing about.

--turnipmonster

[BellyBuster]

I thought Daniel Negreanu wrote the tripledraw section. Danny Niegro on the other hand was P****d to find his content was no longer required afetr editing, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

[MrGrob]

Someone asked if anyone else got this book yet. I did, as noted, 3 days or so ago. I have read some of it, and it is a good read so far. The Caro section is a great refresher section.

And I cleared the 10,000 points by playing 2 tables of 1/2 or 2/4 for someone who asked that.

Be Well

[Lucien Jacky]

I received my copy of SS2 today they shiped it to me in denmark costing them about $19 which was very cool of them.

[jakethebake]

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I received my copy of SS2 today they shiped it to me in denmark costing them about $19 which was very cool of them.

[/ QUOTE ]
That's depressing. They're alreaqdy receiving them in Denmark, and Doylesroom hasn't even bothered to answer my e-mail from over a week ago. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[HesseJam]

I just got mine hand delivered today in Ulan Bator, Mongolia! Tonight, I will do some reading and crush you all tomorrow! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[HesseJam]

... just kidding! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Moyer]

Can anyone actually estimate the # of hands it took them to reach 10,000 pts?

And what's the deal w/ mispelled movies for table names? "Teminator" and "Colour of Money"???

[TimM]

[ QUOTE ]
And what's the deal w/ mispelled movies for table names? "Teminator" and "Colour of Money"???

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess they are trying to be more like Party.

[Lucien Jacky]

I am surprised no copies have shown up on ebay yet I am interested to see how much the first copy put up goes for.

[Liz L.]

I am irritated as hell by the way Doyle's Room has handled this.

First, they made it sound like the books were already available when they started advertising the room long ago.

Then the books were going to be available "soon/in a few weeks" for months.

Now some people have them, and I still have no idea if/when I get mine.

Jo-Host (15:20:55): Hi, welcome to our poker room. How can I help you?
seaworthy (15:21:11): I have more than 10,000 action points. How do I find out if my book has been sent?
Jo-Host (15:23:00): the shipment has been delayed
Jo-Host (15:23:11): we believe they will be sent off shortly
Jo-Host (15:23:26): please allow a few more weeks for the arrival
seaworthy (15:24:40): Several people have posted on the Internet that they received their books. But there's no way to know if and when mine has been sent? Also, I would be happy to pay extra for overnight delivery.
Jo-Host (15:35:28): it will not have been posted yet
Jo-Host (15:35:58): please contact in a week or so when we will have a list of names they will have been posted to
Jo-Host (15:36:14): sorry for the inconvenience

WHY have they never sent a single official e-mail about this? Good job, Doyle, I now loathe your poker room for jerking me around.

[MadManMund]

Just wanted to report that I have recieved my copy of Super System 2 from DoylesRoom today. Looks like it will be a good book; having only flipped through the pages quicky.

eBay is very tempting /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[largeeyes]

Better go for >$80 considering that's the value of "bonus" you cleared earning it.

[Beach-Whale]

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what's the deal w/ mispelled movies for table names? "Teminator" and "Colour of Money"???

[/ QUOTE ]

I can spot the spelling error in "Teminator," but what is wrong with "Colour of Money"?

[Siingo]

Hi!
I have not read SS1 yet, so now I wonder if it is better ( and possible ) to start with SS2 instead since that one is newer!

Is there something you should have read in SS1 before you read SS2?

Thanks!

[jakethebake]

...fact that Doyle misspelled Gus Hansen as "Hanson". /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MaxPower]

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How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

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Good Lord! You'll belive anything won't you. I'll send you $1 million if you'll wire me $1,000 today. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm waiting for an apology. He was not lying.

I got my SuperSystem 2 yesterday. I can't wait to read it.

[Moyer]

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I can spot the spelling error in "Teminator," but what is wrong with "Colour of Money"?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just that it's not the correct spelling for the title of the movie.

[theBruiser500]

anyone want to sell me theres when they finish reading it? PM me or pokerallstar@hotmail.com

[BAK]

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Just that it's not the correct spelling for the title of the movie.



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In American English, color has no u.

[KingMarc]

I just got my copy, and may I be the first to say Jen Harman's Limit HE section sucks in comparison to SSH and HEFAP.

Edit: It sucks more than Ken Warren's books too.

Edit #2: Trust me, I bought a Ken Warren book.

[AKQJ10]

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I can spot the spelling error in "Teminator," but what is wrong with "Colour of Money"?

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Just that it's not the correct spelling for the title of the movie.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sort of like how US newspapers refer to the British "Labor party"?

[La Brujita]

How would you describe the limit section? Basic info, wrong info, not detailed etc? That section is the main reason I want to buy the book so any thoughts appreciated.

[maurile]

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Just wanted to report that I have recieved my copy of Super System 2 from DoylesRoom today. Looks like it will be a good book; having only flipped through the pages quicky.

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Ditto.

[jakethebake]

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How was it sent? Did they use the post office or fedex/ups type service?

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Good Lord! You'll belive anything won't you. I'll send you $1 million if you'll wire me $1,000 today. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I'm waiting for an apology. He was not lying.

I got my SuperSystem 2 yesterday. I can't wait to read it.

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I apologize. I was wrong. Call me a cynic. I thought it was a joke, and a rather played out joke at that. But look at all the unbelieving, probing, questioning posts. Others thought he was joking ass well. I actually got mine 2 days later. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Moyer]

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How would you describe the limit section? Basic info, wrong info, not detailed etc? That section is the main reason I want to buy the book so any thoughts appreciated.

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Ditto

It's hard to believe that it could be worse than Warren's, but maybe Harmen takes after Hellmuth?