Spicymoose
12-02-2004, 02:55 PM
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.
Flop: (9.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.
This is probably the most common, and most confusing part of my game right now. I raised preflop and got a few callers. Now I've got a somewhat coordinated board, but all low cards. I have the worst position, yet I have heard over and over that generally you bet the flop when you raised preflop.
Now is this one of those exceptions? I am trying to find a general threshold for just checking. What am I trying to accomplish by betting here? I KNOW that I can't get everyone to fold (except for the few times hell does freeze over), but am I interested in at least knocking out a few players? I don't see how this cleans up any outs, so the only benefit I can see would maybe be to protect against redraws if I do hit my A or Q.
Once I get raised I figure its pretty straightfoward from there on out.
Turn: (7.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 8.75 BB
If you can, please not only comment on this hand, but if there are any weak generalizations I can pull out of this type of hand.
Thanks,
Spicymoose
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.
Flop: (9.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.
This is probably the most common, and most confusing part of my game right now. I raised preflop and got a few callers. Now I've got a somewhat coordinated board, but all low cards. I have the worst position, yet I have heard over and over that generally you bet the flop when you raised preflop.
Now is this one of those exceptions? I am trying to find a general threshold for just checking. What am I trying to accomplish by betting here? I KNOW that I can't get everyone to fold (except for the few times hell does freeze over), but am I interested in at least knocking out a few players? I don't see how this cleans up any outs, so the only benefit I can see would maybe be to protect against redraws if I do hit my A or Q.
Once I get raised I figure its pretty straightfoward from there on out.
Turn: (7.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 8.75 BB
If you can, please not only comment on this hand, but if there are any weak generalizations I can pull out of this type of hand.
Thanks,
Spicymoose