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partygirluk
12-02-2004, 02:43 PM
This is your 6th hand of a Stars $6 Turbo. Villain has folded PF on 3 of the hands, on on the other two...

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saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t1480)
Button (t1480)
Hero (t1480)
<font color="C00000">BB (t1500)</font>
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t2060)
<font color="C00000">MP1 <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> (t1500)</font>
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="CC3333">MP1 <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> raises to t40</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t40, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20.

Flop: (t170) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Villain bets t100</font>, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t220</font>, UTG+1 folds, Villain calls t120.

Turn: (t610) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t120</font>, Villain calls t120.

River: (t850) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Villain checks.

Final Pot: t850
<font color="green">Main Pot: t850 (t850), between BB and Villain.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Villain (t850).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB has 8h 9d (one pair, eights).
Villain has 9h 9c (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Villain wins t850. </font>

and

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<font color="C00000">MP3 (t1480)</font>
CO (t1440)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1120)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t2020)
<font color="C00000">UTG+1 <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> (t1970)</font>
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> raises to t100</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t100, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t230) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Villain bets t180</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t360</font>, <font color="CC3333">Villain raises to t1200</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t1380</font>, Villain calls t180.

Turn: (t2990) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2990) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2990
<font color="green">Main Pot: t2990 (t2990), between MP3 and Villain.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Villain (t2990).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Villain has Ah As (full house, aces full of jacks).
MP3 has Ks Jd (full house, jacks full of kings).
Outcome: Villain wins t2990. </font>

On to the hand in question.

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MP1 (t2890)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t1470)</font>
CO (t1110)
Button (t1470)
SB (t580)
<font color="C00000">BB <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> (t3480)</font>
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, BB <font color="purple">(Villain)</font> calls t40.

Flop: (t190) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t190</font>, CO calls t190, <font color="CC3333">Villain raises to t3420</font>, Hero?

partygirluk
12-02-2004, 04:55 PM
My thinking was that QQ~AA reraise Pre flop, so I am likely behind only to JJ, which possibly would reraise also. I doubt he would play a set this way, but he might do either in a clueless or subtle plan. I could not totally rule out A3 on some crappy two pair, as it is hard to give people credit in a $6.5 turbo. Also 33 could possibly be played this way. I called, but now I am having second thoughts about it. I would have plenty of chips left if I folded, so was it wrong to take such rash action?

therock
12-02-2004, 05:17 PM
I fold it. I hate to lose my stack when there will be a better opportunity later in the game. 10-10 is a tough hand with a 20 BB. I would just call pre-flop and try to hit a set.

partygirluk
12-02-2004, 06:03 PM
Just had a similar situation.

Blinds are 15/30 and I make it 100 to go with TT from early. Some opponent pushes all in for 1500! I was thinking of calling when the BB (700 stack) called. I folded.

Sick overbet dude shows 99, BB shows J8sooted!

UMTerp
12-02-2004, 06:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Just had a similar situation.

Blinds are 15/30 and I make it 100 to go with TT from early. Some opponent pushes all in for 1500! I was thinking of calling when the BB (700 stack) called. I folded.

Sick overbet dude shows 99, BB shows J8sooted!

[/ QUOTE ]

If I ever bet like that, I'll have AK. Race me if you want. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

morgan180
12-02-2004, 07:18 PM
I fold this. There are too many ways you could be beat.

I don't like calling an all-in with TT on a flop like this as *usually* you're at best against 2 over cards who have 6 outs to beat you twice OR you are already way behind. There will be a better spot down the line.

partygirluk
12-03-2004, 07:20 AM
He had 99 and MHIG.