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Fightin' Engineer
12-01-2004, 11:47 PM
Hey Everyone,

First of all, I am not affiliated with Nevada Jack in any way. I just wanted to give everybody a heads up that the Martini Club set of clays are $500 for a set of 500 instead of the usual $600 price tag. The Nevada Jack mold is still the standard pricing and the 300 chip set is also still at standard pricing. I know many of you consider Blue Chip Co. an inferior chip in many ways, and for good reason. While I agree with alot of you, I love the edge spots on the NJ clays and had only hesitated from ordering a set because they were slightly overpriced IMHO. Knocking off $100 from the price tag brings the price down to $1 per chip which may still be too pricey for some of you, but it was worth it to me and I picked up a set tonight. I guess I am wierd, but I always preferred the Martini Club mold to the NJ mold. Just thought I would let you all know in case the price was the only thing stopping you from picking up a set.

Slow Play Ray
12-02-2004, 12:34 AM
Sweet chips, I thought about picking up a set myself for a while. Anyway, I don't know how picky you are, or how attached to the edge spot colors on these chips...but when I was checking them out I noticed that the edge spot colors on the $100 chip from their website and the ones on the sample pictured on pokerchipreviews.com are different. Personally I think they both look sweet - I'm not even sure which one I like better - but I just wanted to give you a heads up to look into it if you care. Could be the case on more than one chip, who knows...

Peace.

Fightin' Engineer
12-02-2004, 01:34 AM
Thanks Slowplay,

I had noticed on pokerchipreviews.com that the $100 chip had a pink and grey edge spot combo on it instead of the blue/green combo pictured on the website. I think both look nice, but I prefer the green/blue especially because the $500 chip has pink as its main edge spot color. I am really hoping that those pink $100's were the old design that has been phased out to make way for the cooler $100 design. Well, I guess I will find out when my order arrives. Anyway, thanks for the info. It is appreciated.

TenPercenter
12-02-2004, 02:33 AM
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Hey Everyone,

First of all, I am not affiliated with Nevada Jack in any way. I just wanted to give everybody a heads up that the Martini Club set of clays are $500 for a set of 500 instead of the usual $600 price tag. The Nevada Jack mold is still the standard pricing and the 300 chip set is also still at standard pricing. I know many of you consider Blue Chip Co. an inferior chip in many ways, and for good reason. While I agree with alot of you, I love the edge spots on the NJ clays and had only hesitated from ordering a set because they were slightly overpriced IMHO. Knocking off $100 from the price tag brings the price down to $1 per chip which may still be too pricey for some of you, but it was worth it to me and I picked up a set tonight. I guess I am wierd, but I always preferred the Martini Club mold to the NJ mold. Just thought I would let you all know in case the price was the only thing stopping you from picking up a set.

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Something about my Martini Club sample has always bugged me. Here's a chance to ask everyone else their opinion. Take a look:

http://thecagles.com/pix/IMG_0621.JPG

It's warped. And it has a dry, chalky feeling to it. And it has concentric ridges around the edge, about eight of them. There are specs of edgespot color spattered into other parts of the face. The edgespots seem look "painted" on (I know they're not) and look sloppy.

Ok, so that's several things that have bugged me. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Did I get a bad sample? Are these made by Blue Chip? I also have a nevada jack sample, and it has all the same flaws except for the warp, it's at least straight.

My ASM "pokerchips.com" horsehead sample is, in my opinion, MUCH better quality. It's perfectly flat, the edge is perfect and clean, the edgespots look very well done, the mold is crisp. I can find no flaws whatsoever.

Ten

FastFrank
12-02-2004, 03:52 AM
Ten,

My Martini Club samples have the same concentric ridges. They also have specs of edgespot color spattered into the face. When I first saw them, I thought the specs were from a messy paint job. I tried scraping the specs with a knife. It looks like they are just pieces of edge spot material that broke loose during manufacturing.

Fast

PS I didn't notice any warping.

Zion007
12-02-2004, 07:11 AM
Great thread. Thanks for the comments. Because I'm not sure about what kind of inlay I'd do if I got PC.com chips, I always listen up for other chips, so long as the edge spots are good.

You like the horsehead mold? How about the "A" mold? I've heard that the chips seem different.

Johnny5
12-02-2004, 11:55 AM
Wow - the warping on that chip is ridiculous!

I believe that Blue Chip does make these chips. They pretty much spell it out on the site, however they switched suppliers not too long ago. When I was looking for chips about a year ago, I almost bought a set of these. At that time, they were running low on stock and told me they had to find a new supplier. He wouldn't ship to Canada anyway, so I lost out on the set.

After the switch, the chips look MUCH cheaper than the original ones. The chips used to have the brass dust a la ASM(Pokerchips.com). I believe that ASM may have made the original set. Buypokerchips.com also switched suppliers for some reason - they used to have ASM chips HH mold as their only set, and now if you look at their clay set, you see the same odd-shaped edgespots & quality issues as the Nevada Jacks. Thought - did ASM stop supplying both of these vendors to corner the clay market after Paulson left?. Or did they foolishly switch to Blue Chip to save $$.

Here is the orignal $100 NJ chip that is black with solid orange edge spots! The other denoms are different too.

http://207.236.175.179/images/temp/njstack.jpg

Here is the original BuyPokerChips.com set:
http://207.236.175.179/images/temp/bpc.jpg

As for the concentric circles, I have seen these on several different chips. I have a Top Hat & Cane $0.50 chip from Westward Ho that shows these same lines, and this chip is a bit "plastiky", and not of the same quality of some other Paulson chips I have. I equate it to the pokerchip.com samples I received in terms of texture & feel.
Does anyone have a pokerchips.com chip in front of them? I seem to remember seing a very faint trace of these rings on their sample chips.
J5

toots
12-02-2004, 12:32 PM
I kinda like the concentric ridges, although that's a taste thing.

The dry chalkiness is typical for Blue Chips. It's also typical for brand-spanking-new Paul-Sons.

The warpage, though, really does take the cake.

Slow Play Ray
12-02-2004, 12:34 PM
I believe the concentric rings are an artifact of the compression molding process. They are noticeable on pretty much all of the compression-molded clays I have in my posession, both actual casino chips and home chips. The only ones I don't seem them as clearly on are ASM.

maryfield48
12-02-2004, 12:50 PM
My understanding is that both BPC & NJ switched from ASM because of ASM's inability to meet delivery schedules.

Which makes italianstang's issues with Blue Chip ironic.

JinX11
12-02-2004, 01:02 PM
I own a set of these....haven't seen any warped ones. However, a few had broken completely or had large chips cracked off the edges during shipment, a result of certain poor packaging (they had packed the chips at the bottom of a box with an oak case on top, no peanuts and very little newspaper to pad) and/or poor delivery. However, to their credit, NJ readily and quickly sent replacement chips.

I have noticed a number of my Martinis have very tiny chips off the edges...generally not noticable unless you are looking very closely. This may be normal, I don't know.

All in all, of all the chips I ordered as samples, I felt that these were best for my tastes...with the "Nevada" mold chip they also offer coming in a close second. Ultimately, the edge spots on the lower denoms caused me to go with the Martinis; I'm fairly happy with them. I rather like the feel of the chip, which is somewhat chalky as other have said - this is a matter of taste (I prefer old fashioned feel to the newer chips like the Archetype from BuyPokerChips.com because those remind me of composites and I don't want to be reminded of that...but again, to each his own). The "chalkiness" is not as much as the Modern line from BuyPokerChips.com or the James Bond chips. The "chalkiness" goes away with handling it seems. Wish I could get more mileage on them!

The sound is not quite right, but home game chips never are....they have a "click" sound, rather than a nice "clack" (but at least it's not "cleenk", but it is a little tinny).

Johnny5
12-02-2004, 01:29 PM
I prefer the "clank" of my chipcos...
J5

TenPercenter
12-02-2004, 03:06 PM
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Wow - the warping on that chip is ridiculous!

I believe that Blue Chip does make these chips. They pretty much spell it out on the site, however they switched suppliers not too long ago. When I was looking for chips about a year ago, I almost bought a set of these. At that time, they were running low on stock and told me they had to find a new supplier. He wouldn't ship to Canada anyway, so I lost out on the set.

After the switch, the chips look MUCH cheaper than the original ones. The chips used to have the brass dust a la ASM(Pokerchips.com). I believe that ASM may have made the original set. Buypokerchips.com also switched suppliers for some reason - they used to have ASM chips HH mold as their only set, and now if you look at their clay set, you see the same odd-shaped edgespots & quality issues as the Nevada Jacks. Thought - did ASM stop supplying both of these vendors to corner the clay market after Paulson left?. Or did they foolishly switch to Blue Chip to save $$.

Here is the orignal $100 NJ chip that is black with solid orange edge spots! The other denoms are different too.

http://207.236.175.179/images/temp/njstack.jpg

Here is the original BuyPokerChips.com set:
http://207.236.175.179/images/temp/bpc.jpg

As for the concentric circles, I have seen these on several different chips. I have a Top Hat & Cane $0.50 chip from Westward Ho that shows these same lines, and this chip is a bit "plastiky", and not of the same quality of some other Paulson chips I have. I equate it to the pokerchip.com samples I received in terms of texture & feel.
Does anyone have a pokerchips.com chip in front of them? I seem to remember seing a very faint trace of these rings on their sample chips.
J5

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Yes, When I saw your first photo, I IMMEDIATELY thought ASM (pokerchips.com). It's the very smooth face of the edge, the brass dust, and the way the edgespot has little points on it when viewed from the edge. IMO these are several steps above the Martini Clubs and Nevada Jack's that I have.

Ten