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housenuts
12-01-2004, 10:20 PM
$20+2 @ Stars
ok. this hand was ridiculous. i didn't know what to do. i had no read on this guy. hadn't played with him before. i almost layed it down, but then thought "that's what hellmuth would do" and i didn't want to. i also felt if he did in fact have AA well suck it up and i can start a new tourney. i figured he either 50/50 had AA or 27o and was trying to be smart. i guess the only slight read i had on him was he was talking a little trash before the tourney started. what that meant i don't know. anyways can you lay this down?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed)

CO (t1440)
Button (t1410)
SB (t1790)
Hero (t1670)
UTG (t680)
UTG+1 (t1520)
MP1 (t1960)
MP2 (t1620)
MP3 (t1410)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises to t1620</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls t1600.

Flop: (t3250) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3250) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3250) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3250
<font color="green">Main Pot: t3250 (t3250), between Hero and MP2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (t3250).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero has Ks Kh (two pair, kings and jacks).
MP2 has As Ad (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: MP2 wins t3250. </font>

i only layed KK down once before and that was when there was 3 raises before me.

Unarmed
12-01-2004, 10:37 PM
No.
That is all. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bremen
12-02-2004, 12:59 AM
I've seen people do that far more often with 72o than AA. They want to be paid off with AA, they want to put everyone else on tilt with 72o.

Paragon
12-02-2004, 01:01 AM
As someone smart said, "I'm not good enough to fold kings." Same goes for me, in all seriousness.

(Okay fine, I might fold to 3+ allin's, some weird satellite situation on the bubble, or if I'm insane, to intentionally keep a table shorthanded or on the bubble.)

Nick-Zack
12-02-2004, 01:02 AM
We are talking about a SNG here not the WSOP. I call without a second thought, win about 70% of the time and move on the other 30%.

NZ

cha59
12-02-2004, 02:04 AM
In a $20 sng when I get KK I'm hoping for someone to make a play like that so I can get all my chips in there with them. The guy who pushes all in at that point won't have AA anywhere near 50% of the time in my opinion.

captZEEbo1
12-02-2004, 09:24 AM
call and complain. I'm calling this EVERY time....
Although on Stars.

silversurfer
12-02-2004, 09:36 AM
ahhhh...push it...push it good

sorry for the 80's music, but this is an easy call.

bucci
12-02-2004, 09:39 AM
you have to push it here.