QJs BB

[BottlesOf]

Villain here is vpip of 15 and a pfr of 10. He is aggressive postflop. Button is a cash cow vpip 50, pfr 3, and loooose post.

I don't think I played this hand well, but I'd love to here people's thoughts on each street.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.20 BB, won by Hero.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to Hero.</font>

[sfer]

You played it fine.

[BottlesOf]

You don't mind the pre flop call? How about if button weren't such a cash cow? What if it were just one cold-caller to the utg raise?

[Tosh]

Surely the preflop call is totally standard?

[SomethingClever]

Preflop: I think that's a good defense, despite the possibility you might be dominated. Hey, sooted.

Everything else looks standard... assuming you were going to fold to a river raise.

[private joker]

I might have considered a flop check-raise, if PFR was on something like AK or JJ. Other than that it looks great. I love the river bluff, which worked out tremendously.

[BottlesOf]

Yea, I guess it is, but I figured with a pfr 10/vpip 15 guy, his utg raise means something, and when flopping TP may not be good enough.

I would've liked more than 7:1, but figured it was enough. Where's your cutoff in spots like this? handswise (how low you'll go with su00ted connectors)/number of callers?

[AdamL]

Would you have had the same river line, even if the 4th heart hadn't come?

[tripdad]

for 7:1, i'll call with any 2 suited.

cheers!

[bunky9590]

I like it just fine. A little loose but with the "cow" in the hand its fine. I like the river desperation bet BTW.

[MrFeelNothin]

On the flop did you want to force all your opponents(including the cash cow) out? I don't know if you do or not, but villian is going to raise this bet 100.8% of the time likely leaving you two heads up. I'm not sure if thats good protection against your top pair, or if a check-raise to keep the cash cow in likely drawing thin would be better. By the way I love the river.

[me454555]

I really don't like the pf call. Your OOP for the rest of the hand and hes a TAG raising UTG. Weakest hand I can think of is hes got KQ, which has you nicely dominated.

On the flop, I'd probobly go for a check raise here rather than bet out. My reasoning is that I want to keep button in this hand as long as possible and 2 bets won't fold a flush draw anyway. By checking w/the intention of either raising the flop or turn, you can keep him in the hand and not make it heads up against a TAG OOP.

[joker122]

since you can play well post flop, you should be calling with as low as 56s, imo.

[MrFeelNothin]

this is completely standard-automatic-dont even think about folding preflop call.

[BottlesOf]

Everything from I really don't like the pf call to, I'd call any two suited here.

WOW, we need some more thoughts.

[bunky9590]

I'll call with suited connectors down to JT. Maybe, just MAYBE, 98 if I really disrespect this cat.

[Tosh]

You are multi way enough to negate the issue of domination.

[JinX11]

Ahhh hahahaha...I love it. What don't you like???? Nice change of pace play...the river bet is beautiful.

Pre-flop: Fine
Flop: Personally, I check-raise. But, ok, you bet with top pair.
Turn: Good enough.... Can't be afraid everytime three of a suit hit the board.
River: I think it's great. Never in 1000 hands would I have done this...I need to get out more.

[sthief09]

I used to be anti- these hands in these situations, but Nate convinced me that you should call

[sthief09]

nice hand bud

[Evan]

I think the whole hand is fine. I can't believe there was even discussion on the preflop call, that seems comletely standard. I really like the river bet.

[Trix]

The preflop call is very easy getting 7:1, I´d call down to 54s, 64s, Axs here with perfect relative position to maximize if I flop a draw.

I´m not sure I´m into the river bet though, I could see him check through AA-KK,AQ, but I dont see him folding those.
I guess he could pay off with JJ/TT,(AK), but I think the other is more likely. Or maybe I should just bet because it´s what clark tells me to do?

[johnc]

Nice hand. UTG didn't seem to represent a draw PF or Flop. Looks like you play post-flop to the river fine. He just didn't want give up his hand until you showed agression on the river.

[Evan]

I think this is one of those rare cases in limit where your folding equity is high enough to make it a good bet.

[Wired Jokers]

Hand was played well.

Pre-flop: 7-1 odds are fine for the call, even against a tight raiser.

Flop: anticipating a raise from UTG, a bet best protects your hand.

Turn: can't argue, but would a check-raise with the third flush card coming be appropriate here? Especially if it gets you a free showdown, should you need it?

River: perfect use of the "Clarkmeister Theorem".

Nicely played.