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Bodhi
11-27-2004, 06:33 PM
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (7 handed)

MP1 is TAG, and the Button is sLAP.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, MP1 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 15.75 BB, between MP1 and Hero.</font>

I saw the flush possibility, but honestly didn't care because I ought to win this pot at least 33% of the time. True?

zuluking
11-27-2004, 06:35 PM
You must cap the river.

milesdyson
11-27-2004, 07:02 PM
He should have raised the flop if he had spades, so I don't think it's a flush. However, I do think he might have a higher set than you and is trying to get bets out of you.

I would not cap this river because I'd be worried about an oddly played flush or the higher set.

ncboiler
11-27-2004, 07:10 PM
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He should have raised the flop if he had spades, so I don't think it's a flush. However, I do think he might have a higher set than you and is trying to get bets out of you.

I would not cap this river because I'd be worried about an oddly played flush or the higher set.

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Not raising because fear of a higher set is very weak thinking. I can see not raising because of flush possiblities but not a higher set.

Nick Royale
11-27-2004, 07:18 PM
Can't see why MP1 would just call the flop and then lead the turn if he's on a flushdraw. Especially with the flop raiser to his immediate left. And a slowplayed flopped set would go for the checkraise. A possible holding for MP1 is 66, but it's more likely to checkraise the turn. He's tight so I can't imagine he has the straight. To be honest I would not play any hand in the universe the way MP1 played this one. Not that I can think of...

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I saw the flush possibility, but honestly didn't care because I ought to win this pot at least 33% of the time. True?

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False. Button folds so you would have to take this down at least 50% of the time to raise and cap for value. if he got the flush, he's a fish. I'll cap this, hoping he's not.

Bodhi
11-27-2004, 07:57 PM
You're right that I was hoping the button would call. A mistake I suppose.

As for the strangeness of MP1, I'm glad to hear you say that. He had: <font color="white">As Ts!</font>(&lt;-in white) Here's the stats I have on him over 129 hands: VPIP: 13.67 PFR: 6.47 TOTA:1.96
Go figure.

milesdyson
11-27-2004, 08:34 PM
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He should have raised the flop if he had spades, so I don't think it's a flush. However, I do think he might have a higher set than you and is trying to get bets out of you.

I would not cap this river because I'd be worried about an oddly played flush or the higher set.

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Not raising because fear of a higher set is very weak thinking. I can see not raising because of flush possiblities but not a higher set.

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Like I said in my post, my only fear wasn't set over set. I also worried about an oddly played flush draw. If there was no flush on the board, I would definitely cap.