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Vish
11-25-2004, 09:00 AM
Alright, I really suck at heads up play. I'm embarassed to post this as some of these plays are really atrocious, but in the spirit of improvement, here goes. It's a $20 tournament. Sorry it's so long, I hope you'll read it anyway. No holding back.

***** Hand History for Game 1220932951 *****
money_handla finished in third place and won $40.
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:30:10 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (6340)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (1660)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 3d, 3c ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
johanramirez balance 6090, lost 250 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 1910, bet 500, collected 750, net +250

***** Hand History for Game 1220933099 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:30:20 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (6090)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (1910)
vishiefishie posts small blind (250)
johanramirez posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 2c, 4d ]
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
johanramirez balance 6340, bet 500, collected 750, net +250
vishiefishie balance 1660, lost 250 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220933296 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:30:31 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (6340)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (1660)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Jc, 8d ]
johanramirez calls (250)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8h, 2c, 9c ]
vishiefishie bets (1160)
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2160 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2160
Board: [ 8h 2c 9c ]
johanramirez balance 5840, lost 500 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 2160, bet 1660, collected 2160, net +500

***** Hand History for Game 1220933653 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:30:53 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5840)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2160)
vishiefishie posts small blind (250)
johanramirez posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 8h, Qh ]
vishiefishie raises (1910) to 2160
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez calls (1660)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, Qc, 4s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
Creating Main Pot with $4320 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4320 |
Board: [ 2c Qc 4s 9c 9h ]
johanramirez balance 3680, lost 2160 [ 5h Qs ] [ two pairs, queens and nines -- Qs,Qc,9c,9h,5h ]
vishiefishie balance 4320, bet 2160, collected 4320, net +2160 [ 8h Qh ] [ two pairs, queens and nines with eight kicker -- Qh,Qc,9c,9h,8h ]

***** Hand History for Game 1220934006 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:31:15 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3680)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4320)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, 5d ]
johanramirez calls (250)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 8c, 3h ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez bets (500)
vishiefishie calls (500)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez bets (500)
vishiefishie calls (500)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3000
Board: [ 3c 8c 3h 4d Ad ]
johanramirez balance 5180, bet 1500, collected 3000, net +1500 [ 9h 4h ] [ two pairs, fours and threes -- Ad,4h,4d,3c,3h ]
vishiefishie balance 2820, lost 1500 [ Kh 5d ] [ a pair of threes -- Ad,Kh,8c,3c,3h ]

***** Hand History for Game 1220934521 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:31:47 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5180)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2820)
vishiefishie posts small blind (250)
johanramirez posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ks, 9c ]
vishiefishie raises (2570) to 2820
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3320 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3320
johanramirez balance 4680, lost 500 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 3320, bet 2820, collected 3320, net +500

***** Hand History for Game 1220934775 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:32:01 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4680)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3320)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 4d, 2d ]
johanramirez raises (1150) to 1400
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900
johanramirez balance 5180, bet 1400, collected 1900, net +500
vishiefishie balance 2820, lost 500 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220935209 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:32:27 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5180)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2820)
vishiefishie posts small blind (250)
johanramirez posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ah, 4h ]
vishiefishie raises (2570) to 2820
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez calls (2320)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 9d, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kd ]
Creating Main Pot with $5640 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5640 |
Board: [ 6c 9d Ts Kc Kd ]
johanramirez balance 2360, lost 2820 [ 8h Qh ] [ a pair of kings -- Kc,Kd,Qh,Ts,9d ]
vishiefishie balance 5640, bet 2820, collected 5640, net +2820 [ Ah 4h ] [ a pair of kings with ace kicker -- Ah,Kc,Kd,Ts,9dAh(kicker card) ]

***** Hand History for Game 1220935470 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:32:43 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (2360)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (5640)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, Td ]
johanramirez raises (2110) to 2360
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie calls (1860)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kd, 7s, 5c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ As ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
Creating Main Pot with $4720 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4720 |
Board: [ Kd 7s 5c As 2d ]
johanramirez balance 4720, bet 2360, collected 4720, net +2360 [ Ad 4c ] [ a pair of aces -- Ad,As,Kd,7s,5c ]
vishiefishie balance 3280, lost 2360 [ Kh Td ] [ a pair of kings -- As,Kh,Kd,Td,7s ]

***** Hand History for Game 1220935727 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:32:59 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4720)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3280)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ As, Qs ]
vishiefishie raises (2980) to 3280
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3880 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3880
johanramirez balance 4120, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 3880, bet 3280, collected 3880, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220935979 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:33:14 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3880)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ks, Jd ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie raises (3280) to 3880
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4480 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4480
johanramirez balance 3520, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4480, bet 3880, collected 4480, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220936332 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:33:34 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ad, 3d ]
vishiefishie raises (4180) to 4480
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5080 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5080
johanramirez balance 2920, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 5080, bet 4480, collected 5080, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220936538 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:33:46 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (2920)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (5080)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Qs, As ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 2620, lost 300 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 5380, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 1220936720 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:33:57 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (2620)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (5380)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Js, 9s ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez raises (600) to 1200
vishiefishie calls (600)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 2s, Ac ]
johanramirez bets (1200)
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3600
Board: [ Qc 2s Ac ]
johanramirez balance 3820, bet 2400, collected 3600, net +1200
vishiefishie balance 4180, lost 1200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220937186 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:34:27 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3820)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4180)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 5h, 6s ]
johanramirez raises (3520) to 3820
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4420 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4420
johanramirez balance 4420, bet 3820, collected 4420, net +600
vishiefishie balance 3580, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220937469 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:34:45 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4420)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3580)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 8h, Kd ]
vishiefishie raises (3280) to 3580
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4180 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4180
johanramirez balance 3820, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4180, bet 3580, collected 4180, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220937661 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:34:56 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3820)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4180)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 9s, 4d ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, Qh, Js ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez bets (600)
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1800
Board: [ 6h Qh Js ]
johanramirez balance 4420, bet 1200, collected 1800, net +600 [ 6d 6s ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Qh,Js,6d,6s,6h ]
vishiefishie balance 3580, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220938026 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:35:18 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4420)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3580)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ts, 4c ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 9h, Qc ]
johanramirez checks.
vishiefishie bets (600)
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1800
Board: [ 6c 9h Qc ]
johanramirez balance 3820, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4180, bet 1200, collected 1800, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220938301 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:35:34 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3820)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4180)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ad, Ts ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 3520, lost 300 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4480, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 1220938438 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:35:43 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ah, 6h ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez raises (2920) to 3520
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie calls (2920)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, Ad, 9d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
Creating Main Pot with $7040 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 7040 |
Board: [ 9h Ad 9d 3h Qd ]
johanramirez balance 3520, bet 3520, collected 3520, net +0 [ Jd Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and nines -- Ac,Ad,Qd,9h,9d ]
vishiefishie balance 4480, bet 3520, collected 3520, net +0 [ Ah 6h ] [ two pairs, aces and nines -- Ah,Ad,Qd,9h,9d ]

***** Hand History for Game 1220938781 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:36:03 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Th, Js ]
johanramirez raises (3220) to 3520
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4120 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4120
johanramirez balance 4120, bet 3520, collected 4120, net +600
vishiefishie balance 3880, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220939049 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:36:20 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3880)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 6s, 6c ]
vishiefishie raises (3580) to 3880
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4480 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4480
johanramirez balance 3520, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4480, bet 3880, collected 4480, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220939223 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:36:31 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Td, 8d ]
johanramirez raises (3220) to 3520
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4120 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4120
johanramirez balance 4120, bet 3520, collected 4120, net +600 [ Ac Ks ] [ high card ace -- Ac,Ks ]
vishiefishie balance 3880, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220939538 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:36:49 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3880)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, Ks ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, Qd, Jh ]
johanramirez checks.
vishiefishie bets (3280)
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4480 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4480
Board: [ 9d Qd Jh ]
johanramirez balance 3520, lost 600 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4480, bet 3880, collected 4480, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1220939915 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:37:11 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 3c, 6s ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 3220, lost 300 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4780, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 1220940049 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:37:20 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3220)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4780)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 3s, 6h ]
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 3520, bet 600, collected 900, net +300 [ Ad Tc ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Tc ]
vishiefishie balance 4480, lost 300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220940237 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:37:31 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Qh, 5c ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 3220, lost 300 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 4780, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 1220940403 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:37:41 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3220)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4780)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Qs, 6d ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, Ah, Tc ]
johanramirez checks.
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
johanramirez bets (600)
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1800
Board: [ 3s Ah Tc Ks ]
johanramirez balance 3820, bet 1200, collected 1800, net +600
vishiefishie balance 4180, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220940889 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:38:09 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3820)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4180)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 4c, As ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8h, Jh, 6d ]
vishiefishie bets (700)
johanramirez raises (3220) to 3220
johanramirez is all-In.
vishiefishie folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5120 with johanramirez
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5120
Board: [ 8h Jh 6d ]
johanramirez balance 5120, bet 3820, collected 5120, net +1300
vishiefishie balance 2880, lost 1300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1220941305 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:38:34 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2880)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 7c, 5h ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez raises (600) to 1200
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1800
johanramirez balance 5720, bet 1200, collected 1800, net +600 [ Kc As ] [ high card ace -- As,Kc ]
vishiefishie balance 2280, lost 600 (folded)

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600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:38:50 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5720)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2280)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 3c, 8c ]
johanramirez folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 5420, lost 300 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 2580, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

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600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:39:01 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5420)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2580)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 3c, 2h ]
vishiefishie folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
johanramirez balance 5720, bet 600, collected 900, net +300
vishiefishie balance 2280, lost 300 (folded)

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600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:39:12 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5720)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2280)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Jc, 8d ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie raises (1680) to 2280
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez calls (1680)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 4d, Qh ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $4560 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4560 |
Board: [ 7d 4d Qh 9d Qs ]
johanramirez balance 8000, bet 2280, collected 4560, net +2280 [ 9c Ac ] [ two pairs, queens and nines -- Ac,Qh,Qs,9c,9d ]
vishiefishie balance 0, lost 2280 [ Jc 8d ] [ a pair of queens -- Qh,Qs,Jc,9d,8d ]

tigerite
11-25-2004, 09:28 AM
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500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:31:15 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3680)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4320)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, 5d ]
johanramirez calls (250)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 8c, 3h ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez bets (500)
vishiefishie calls (500)
** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]
vishiefishie checks.
johanramirez bets (500)
vishiefishie calls (500)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3000
Board: [ 3c 8c 3h 4d Ad ]
johanramirez balance 5180, bet 1500, collected 3000, net +1500 [ 9h 4h ] [ two pairs, fours and threes -- Ad,4h,4d,3c,3h ]
vishiefishie balance 2820, lost 1500 [ Kh 5d ] [ a pair of threes -- Ad,Kh,8c,3c,3h ]


What were you doing here? Complete waste of 1000 in my opinion. You should have bluffed the flop for 500, and if he called then you are in check/fold mode. (As it turns out, he probably wouldn't have called anyway) This check/call business with K high is just a complete drain on your chips.

tigerite
11-25-2004, 09:29 AM
Actually scratch that. You should have just pushed all in preflop.

ChrisV
11-25-2004, 09:34 AM
***** Hand History for Game 1220934006 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:31:15 EST 2004
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, 5d ]
johanramirez calls (250)
vishiefishie checks.

Push this.

***** Hand History for Game 1220936720 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:33:57 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (2620)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (5380)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Js, 9s ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez raises (600) to 1200
vishiefishie calls (600)

Ugh. No way. Just push again, straight up. J9s is a better than random hand - it wins 54.1% of the time vs a random hand.

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600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:35:18 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4420)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3580)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ts, 4c ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez checks.

Just fold. The hand is trash and you were doing a lot of pushing earlier - time to show him you're capable of folding in the SB. Then start pushing again.

***** Hand History for Game 1220938438 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:35:43 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3520)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4480)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Ah, 6h ]
vishiefishie calls (300)

Eh? Push!

***** Hand History for Game 1220939538 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:36:49 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (4120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (3880)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Kh, Ks ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez checks.

You should be eliminating limping from the rest of the game - which means you should start pushing this too. But since you've limped a few times already limp is good.

***** Hand History for Game 1220940403 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:37:41 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3220)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4780)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Qs, 6d ]
vishiefishie calls (300)

I'd push. The hand isn't bad and you've folded your last two hands.

***** Hand History for Game 1220940889 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:38:09 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (3820)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (4180)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 4c, As ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie checks.

No way. Push. A little under 1/6 of total chips in play are sitting in the middle and you're going to let him take a flop?

***** Hand History for Game 1220941305 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:38:34 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5120)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2880)
vishiefishie posts small blind (300)
johanramirez posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ 7c, 5h ]
vishiefishie calls (300)
johanramirez raises (600) to 1200
vishiefishie folds.

Cut this limping out. Fold this junk and move in with the marginal ones like J9s and Q6o.

***** Hand History for Game 1220941924 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:39:12 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (5720)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (2280)
johanramirez posts small blind (300)
vishiefishie posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Jc, 8d ]
johanramirez calls (300)
vishiefishie raises (1680) to 2280
vishiefishie is all-In.

I think this is OK, but the problem is the amount. He often isn't going to fold for 1680 more.
The time to push was with the A4.

The secret to headsup is that at the 250/500 level and above its pretty much a crapshoot. A lot of the time when the opponents fold to your raises they're making bad errors. Look at the fold you made with JTo earlier. Against this opponent that was fine as he is rather tight, but against an opponent who pushes things like J9s, like I'm advising you to do, it's a mistake.

tigerite
11-25-2004, 09:38 AM
***** Hand History for Game 1220935727 *****

Don't raise so much - 2 or 3xbb is fine, try to entice him into going all over the top of you with a strong hand like AQs

***** Hand History for Game 1220936720 *****

Push J9s

***** Hand History for Game 1220938026 *****

Don't complete with this junk. It's mostly a waste of 300 chips.

***** Hand History for Game 1220938438 *****

Be the aggressor here, instead of meekly calling the all-in.

***** Hand History for Game 1220939538 *****

I prefer a minraise with KK. Again, to try to trap. Once you get to the flop though, why push? He either has you beat or has caught the Q or J. It's better to try to entice him to bluff you here.

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This is so weak on the flop. You have to bet that, there is no way he has an ace here.

***** Hand History for Game 1220940889 *****

Push!

***** Hand History for Game 1220941305 *****

Don't complete if you are planning to fold to any kind of raise. Waste of chips. 75o is trash.

tigerite
11-25-2004, 09:47 AM
I'd say ChrisV and myself pretty much agree on all the above. I also was going to mention the JTo hand but with this opponent, I wouldn't have called it, either.

Vish
11-25-2004, 09:55 AM
This is interesting. I was limping so much because in the past I've always pushed the hands you suggested pushing, and I feel like I always get trapped by a better hand. Out of frustration, I started trying to play more postflop, and the result was the nonsense you see above. But anyway, if you push every Kx and Ax, won't your opponent just wait until he has a good kicker and then call?

And one other thing: what do you do against people like this guy, who pretty much never bluff? Foolish as it is, I have more trouble with these solid players than with LAGs. Maybe that's because I keep trying to bluff them when they have it.

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.

tigerite
11-25-2004, 11:08 AM
More likely than not he will run out of time/patience and call you with much lesser holdings. Or he will call with Kx when you have Ax. Or with Ax when you have a pair.

Paragon
11-25-2004, 07:00 PM
***** Hand History for Game 1220933296 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7428694) - Thu Nov 25 07:30:31 EST 2004
Table Table 13758 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: johanramirez (6340)
Seat 9: vishiefishie (1660)
johanramirez posts small blind (250)
vishiefishie posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vishiefishie [ Jc, 8d ]
johanramirez calls (250)
vishiefishie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8h, 2c, 9c ]
vishiefishie bets (1160)
vishiefishie is all-In.
johanramirez folds.
Creating Main Pot with $2160 with vishiefishie
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2160
Board: [ 8h 2c 9c ]
johanramirez balance 5840, lost 500 (folded)
vishiefishie balance 2160, bet 1660, collected 2160, net +500

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Maybe this is just me, but when I'm this low in chips I start to bank on midpair holding up... I'd give up free cards here trying to check raise or at worst just all in on the turn or river, which looks desperate enough for a crying call perhaps. He must have had garbage to limp instead of just forcing you allin PF, so he's probably either drawing pretty slim already or has you dominated... Maybe he'll try to bluff you off or hit lower pair later on, and you can get him to call with a bad holding then.

Otherwise, I agree with the other suggestions mentioned so far. As for the K5o hand, pushing is a great option, but I might have felt frisky enough to min-raise PF "to take the lead". Then with a paired flop I might suspect K high is good and push... I'm probably being way too results oriented here though.

ChrisV
11-25-2004, 08:39 PM
They have to be dealt good kickers first. They don't get dealt dominating matchups that often.

However, let's say your nightmare does happen. Say with that A6hh that you limped, your opponent gets dealt AsQc. (By the way, if you limp and he raises allin, are you really folding?).

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ah 6h 490771 28.66 1132114 66.12 89419 5.22 0.313
As Qc 1132114 66.12 490771 28.66 89419 5.22 0.687

Your EV is 0.313. The total pot will be 7040 chips. 0.313*7040 = 2203 chips is your expectation. You put in 3220 chips to raise so you lose around 1000 chips. The blinds are 900 chips! In other words, if he folds once to your allin raise and then calls with a dominating hand, your loss is a tiny 100 chips.

He doesn't have to be dominating you - if you run it again with Kh 6h, your loss is only 400 chips, so that one successful steal more than double pays for running into this hand.

Let's look at another situation: You get caught stealing with Js 9s. Let's say he calls with Ac 6h. If he doesn't make calls like this you're going to run over the top of him.

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9s 813958 47.54 891689 52.08 6657 0.39 0.477
Ac 6h 891689 52.08 813958 47.54 6657 0.39 0.523

Note how huge your EV is here. In fact, 44 vs AT, say, has a larger EV than Ac 6h does here, and that situation is commonly referred to as a "coinflip". 7040 * .477 is 3358 chips. In other words, suppose you KNOW your opponent has Ac 6h and is going to call. Then raising allin still has a positive expectation, because of the size of the blinds.

The lesson is - aside from overpairs, no hand really beats any other hand by very much preflop. When the blinds are big, steal steal steal and don't worry about getting caught. You might feel like an idiot when you run into a dominating hand, but remember the maths above. Those situations just arent going to pay for the stolen blinds in the long run.

Playing against guys who never bluff is a cinch. Just steal hiis blind heaps and fold whenever he raises. When he limps in, don't raise without a pretty good hand.