Three new chips for the Egyptian set. New Colors?

[TenPercenter]

Re: History on the past order (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=911045&page=1&view=co llapsed&sb=5&o=186&fpart=1)

I am going to get three new chips for the set. So far I have:

$1 white
$5 red
$25 green
$100 black
$500 gold (may as well be yellow edges)

(see here for the chips colors) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1095237&page=1&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=186&vc=1)

/images/graemlins/diamond.gif I'm adding these three: $.25, $1,000, and $5,000.

My question is, what three colors should I use for these new chips? I've gotten an opinion from a chip dealer, and I want to reinforce what I've already heard with what I feel is right. If my $500 was already purple, this would be easy. But I chose gold in the beginning since I didn't plan to have new chips designed.

Any help is appreciated.

Ten

(p.s. After I determine colors, I will nail down images for the chips. Most likely an Ankh for the .25, Anubis for the $1k, and the almighty Tutankamun for the $5k)

[Johnny5]

Personally, I don't care for strict adherance to "standard" chip colors anyway, so I would choose colors that contrast well with the existing set.

My choice would be:

.25 - Blue
1000 - Pink or Orange
5000 - Purple/Lavender

J5

[rusellmj]

This is OT. I noticed in some of the pics there are what seem to be small shards of the chips that have chipped off. Is this something that this type of chip does?
These are very beautiful chips. The colored chips (excluding the white) seem very deep (darker) but bright. I think a deep torquoise (toward the blue end) or maybe sapphire would be a nice addition and contrast to the other high value chips.
My 2 SB
Russ

[Johnny5]

I think you may be referring to the injection mold marks on the 'rolling edge' of the chips. Unfortunately, all Chipcos have them. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

J5

[Ghazban]

I like the Ankh/Anbuis/Tutankhamen idea for the 3 new denominations but, as Anubis is a god and Tutankhamen was merely a wicked rich boy king, I'd put Anubis on the biggest denomination chip. Colorwise, I think blue for the $.25, and bright pink/royal purple (in some order) for the 2 big ones would contrast nicely..... I'm almost hoping they come out crappy so I don't have to scrape together some more money to update my set /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[TenPercenter]

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This is OT. I noticed in some of the pics there are what seem to be small shards of the chips that have chipped off. Is this something that this type of chip does?

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I had to look to see what you meant. If you mean that crescent shaped white thing near the reds and whites, then no. That's not a part of the chips, I dont know what it is. I've used all 1500 of my set, and never noticed a defect or damage of any kind.

Ten

[wacki]

One more character you should keep in mind for a chip is Imhotep. You know, the guy from the movie "The Mummy". Imhotep was unreal, he was setting bones, extracting medicines from plants, and using antibiotics in 2600 B.C.!!! We didn't didn't start using antibiotics till 4,580 years later!

He invented the pyramid, cured over 500 (some say 200, but 500 is the number I've seen in most texts) illnesses, was worshiped as a god by Egyptians and early christians as well, and much more.

[mmbt0ne]

Plus, his name starts with I'm ho. How can you go wrong with that?

I'm with the blue, purple, pink crowd. I think a grey would be nice too, but that would probably look too much like the white.

[wacki]

Foxwoods has grey as $5,000. Just a FYI.

[TenPercenter]

I'm listening closely to everyone, thanks and keep the comments coming.

I have to ask though, many of you are offering pink as one of the chip colors. Are you sure that it will go well with this set? Also, keep in mind that the secondary color for each chip is gold.

Ten

[Johnny5]

Ten - I think a pink chip would go with the set. One of my Pokerchips.com mockups (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1221846&page=4&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1) (posted image is a bit rough)was kind of a dark pink (don't remember the color name, with a yellow edge (gold would be similar i guess), and i think it looks good.

Are you going to tell us what you were thinking? (grey/brown?)

J5

[TenPercenter]

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Ten - I think a pink chip would go with the set. One of my Pokerchips.com mockups (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1221846&page=4&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1) (posted image is a bit rough)was kind of a dark pink (don't remember the color name, with a yellow edge (gold would be similar i guess), and i think it looks good.

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If you're talking about the first chip, then that's not too bad. When I think "pink" I think about the pink in the 3rd row, or a "baby" pink.


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Are you going to tell us what you were thinking? (grey/brown?)

J5

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I wanted to get opinions first. That would avoid the stagnation of the topic when everyone just agrees with me out of convenience. But everyone has a bit of my ideas, which are orange, purple, and blue. What I don't know for sure is the order...

Ten

[wacki]

Tenpercenter, I think you've done an awesome job with designing your chips so far.

Since you are doing a historical theme, maybe you should look into legit Egyptian colors

http://www.dotco.co.uk/colours/egypt.html

Not all colors are shown in the color chart, some are simply described in the paragraph.

[TenPercenter]

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Tenpercenter, I think you've done an awesome job with designing your chips so far.

Since you are doing a historical theme, maybe you should look into legit Egyptian colors

http://www.dotco.co.uk/colours/egypt.html

Not all colors are shown in the color chart, some are simply described in the paragraph.

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That might be a very good idea! One more thing to add to the story when I talk about them. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ten

[rusellmj]

I doubt pink will compliment this chip set. You pretty much have vivid primary colors. Pastels and the like should be avoided. How about an orange chip? Just a thought. Your chosen symbols are spot on. Three of the most recognizable egyptian images there are. While I'm sure Imahempho did amazing things, you could pretty much put my picture on the chip and say it's him. I do agree with the guy who said Anubus should be the highest denom as he is a god.
There, I said it.
Russ

[TenPercenter]

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I doubt pink will compliment this chip set. You pretty much have vivid primary colors. Pastels and the like should be avoided. How about an orange chip? Just a thought. Your chosen symbols are spot on. Three of the most recognizable egyptian images there are. While I'm sure Imahempho did amazing things, you could pretty much put my picture on the chip and say it's him. I do agree with the guy who said Anubus should be the highest denom as he is a god.
There, I said it.
Russ

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Orange is one of my choices too.

Re: Anubis. The reason I'm wanting Tut on the big chip is simply because he's the most recognizable symbol (his funerary mask anyway). This is THE reason I didn't use it for the first five chips, because it's common to me. But for this set, it's gonna look great because the $5k plaque will have lots of room to show off the gold in that mask.

Ten

[unloaded]

Signed up here just because of your chips. I read the original post and saw you mentioned possibly making them available when you had more customs made. I'd be interested in a set of 500, 200-$25, 200-$100 & 100-$500. If this would be possible, please post details here. I would have asked with a PM but I bet others would be interested in the answer. Beautiful set BTW.

peace.
unloaded

[TenPercenter]

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Signed up here just because of your chips. I read the original post and saw you mentioned possibly making them available when you had more customs made. I'd be interested in a set of 500, 200-$25, 200-$100 & 100-$500. If this would be possible, please post details here. I would have asked with a PM but I bet others would be interested in the answer. Beautiful set BTW.

peace.
unloaded

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I'm working on a way to make this happen. Since art costs are so high with this set, it would definately be beneficial to me (and my new baby) to share the cost again. But Chipco's new prices are $1.10 to the public unless you buy 20,000 chips at once. There may be enough interest this time to crack that, but I'm not sure. Last time I had over 10,000 "I want in's" but only 7,200 ordered.

I'll promise you now that I'll post here any offer I end up with. Keep an eye on the forum. If it happens I'd offer the original chips in the set in addition to the new pieces. Don't dismiss the new ones yet, this will be the only set I've seen that has round, octagon, AND large plaques. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

And thanks so much for the compliments.

Ten

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

I know this seems a bit obvious as an image, but what about a pyramid?

[TenPercenter]

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I know this seems a bit obvious as an image, but what about a pyramid?

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I plan to use other images on the plaque, such as pyramids, vultures, and the Sphynx. It'll have more "canvas" to play with.

I just thought of something, what about using "papyrus" as the background on the plaque, instead of bricks like on the other chips? Egyptians used papyrus for canvas and paper. Papyrus looks like this:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:dbkWozIJfSAJ:tubes.ominix.com/art/misc/papyrus-01.png

problem: There's no longer a "themed" color for the plaque. But will I really need a main color? It'll have "$5,000" in big gold numbers, and will be a big rectangle that'll be impossible to mistake for any other chip...

Ten

BTW: What I mean by "vultures" is below, but a better sample will be on the chip. There will be two in the top corners, "framing" the rectangle.

http://www.shira.net/nekhbet.gif

[unloaded]

If you could find a nice stylized pic of a cobra with his hood spread it would fit nicely on a chip. I have a bunch of stock art cd's somewhere, haveta dig them out and see if any have egyption images on them.

peace.
unloaded

[TenPercenter]

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If you could find a nice stylized pic of a cobra with his hood spread it would fit nicely on a chip. I have a bunch of stock art cd's somewhere, haveta dig them out and see if any have egyption images on them.

peace.
unloaded

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I would appreciate that clipart, thank you.

Ten

[unloaded]

Well, I dug through all the discs I could find and nothing Egyptian on them. Hopefully I'll be able to find more. I could have swore I had one full of the stuff.

peace.
unloaded

PS: how do I set default flat view of threads?

[TenPercenter]

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Well, I dug through all the discs I could find and nothing Egyptian on them. Hopefully I'll be able to find more. I could have swore I had one full of the stuff.

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That's ok. Thank you for looking.


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PS: how do I set default flat view of threads?

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My Home, Display preferences, Default display mode



Ten

[Craig_W]

Keep the bricks IMHO, it's the best set I'v ever seen, keep it that way!

[rusellmj]

I agree. You need to keep the theme of the bricks. When I first saw the chips I thought of the pyramids because of the backgrounds. I really like the 500 chip. The lighting on the lady (Cleopatra?) is directional. Like you walked up to her with a torch. It would be cool if you could do Tut's the same way. Maybe a torch on either side. Give it that tomb raider feel. I guess. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Russ

[Fins]

I'll throw in my 2¢...

I like blue for the 25¢ chip... what about using a water theme here - quote from Egyptology (http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/nun.html) "Naunet (Nunet), on the other hand, is more obscure than her husband. She was thought to be a snake-headed woman who presided over the watery chaos with Nun. Her name was exactly the same as Nun's, in hieroglyphs, but with the feminine ending for a goddess."

I like purple for the $1000 though orange might be more standard

For the $5k I like your papyrus idea or brown might work as there are alot of browns to choose from.

- Fins

[TenPercenter]

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I'll throw in my 2¢...

I like blue for the 25¢ chip... what about using a water theme here - quote from Egyptology (http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/nun.html) "Naunet (Nunet), on the other hand, is more obscure than her husband. She was thought to be a snake-headed woman who presided over the watery chaos with Nun. Her name was exactly the same as Nun's, in hieroglyphs, but with the feminine ending for a goddess."

I like purple for the $1000 though orange might be more standard

For the $5k I like your papyrus idea or brown might work as there are alot of browns to choose from.

- Fins

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Fianl decicions have been made. I appreciate all the help.

I decided to keep the bricks for all chips, including the plaque, to stay in-theme. Colors and image themes as follows:

25¢ - Blue - 39mm round - Image to be an Ankh.
$1,000 - Orange - 44mm octagon - Anubis
$5,000 - Royal Purple - Plaque - Tutankhamen

The Plaque will have Tut's burial mask, the solid gold one that everyone knows. Other images will surround him, making this one unique. It's going to look great. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ten

[Lumpy]

Ten

Are you going to use the Plaque or T-Plaque from Chipco?

[Ghazban]

Any idea what costs for these new additions to the set will be (ballpark figure, of course)? If I recall correctly when you were enquiring about plaques a while back, it looked like the cost on those would be pretty steep. Are the octagonal shaped chips more expensive, too?

[TenPercenter]

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Ten

Are you going to use the Plaque or T-Plaque from Chipco?

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I think the 89mm Plaque. I'll save the bigger T-Plaque for the $10,000 chip, IF we ever need it. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ten

[TenPercenter]

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Any idea what costs for these new additions to the set will be (ballpark figure, of course)? If I recall correctly when you were enquiring about plaques a while back, it looked like the cost on those would be pretty steep. Are the octagonal shaped chips more expensive, too?

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DISCLAIMER: This is definately Ballpark!

My hope is to get the .25 chips at or just over $1. The plaques are likely to be $5 each, or over. The ocatagon is harder to guess. Probably $2? Maybe less? More to come on all that once I find the best avenue for getting them made.

Again, like last time, I am trying to retain full control over the art. This is why I cannot go with homepokerchips.com. With them, I have to pay all art up front, and I am limited on revisions. This is not good for me, I'm too anal about these chips. /images/graemlins/smile.gif (thechipstore is NOT an option)

So we're likely to have higher prices by going through Chipco direct. This is ok with me, because their secret weapon is their art department. For those of us that already have the chips, we won't be adding that many more. It's all the people that have been asking to get in on the next order that will help with the cost. They will be ordering a great many more than us early members.

Ten

[bandfan]

so if you could clear this up for me... i would definitely be interested in getting a set of these, but i will be able to get all of the denoms correct? or is this just for people who already have the sets?

[TenPercenter]

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so if you could clear this up for me... i would definitely be interested in getting a set of these, but i will be able to get all of the denoms correct? or is this just for people who already have the sets?

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The way I want to set it up is to allow new orders for ANY or ALL of the 8 chip denominations. Total will be the following:

25¢ - Blue - 39mm round - Ankh
$1 - White - 39mm round - Cartouche reading "Poker Oasis"
$5 - Red - 39mm round - Pharoah on throne
$25 - Green - 39mm round - Eye of Ra, the Udjat
$100 - Black - 39mm round - Winged Scarab
$500 - Gold - 39mm round - Nefertiti
$1,000 - Orange - 44mm octagon - Anubis
$5,000 - Royal Purple - 89mm Plaque - Tutankhamen (and more)

Ten

[bandfan]

awesome, good to know

[wacki]

Hey tenpercenter, I think you might like this.

Custom felt by playtables.com

http://www.playtables.com/Professional_Tables/Sdyesubfelt.jpg

[TenPercenter]

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Hey tenpercenter, I think you might like this.

Custom felt by playtables.com

http://www.playtables.com/Professional_Tables/Sdyesubfelt.jpg

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Looks interesting, but all I get is "HTTP 404 - File not found"

Ten

[TenPercenter]

In the meantime, how about this site for maiking your own deck of cards..

http://www.yourplayingcards.com/

I know there are ways to get custom decks MUCH cheaper (in quantity), but nowhere you can design them online like this. I made a kick-ass Egyptian deck in less than two minutes...

Ten

[wacki]

That is awesome, I wish Kems/Copags had that. Mind posting a pic of your egyptian card artwork? I'm definitely going to make a deck.

BTW try http://www.playtables.com/ that should work (you need the www)

The poker table stuff is here. I like the 4 suit fabric a lot.

http://www.playtables.com/Professional_Tables/professional_tables.html

[TenPercenter]

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That is awesome, I wish Kems/Copags had that. Mind posting a pic of your egyptian card artwork? I'm definitely going to make a deck.

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I didn't save it, it required registering which is WAY to much work for me. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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BTW try http://www.playtables.com/ that should work (you need the www)

The poker table stuff is here. I like the 4 suit fabric a lot.



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Me too! When I was planning to build a table, that's the exact fabric I planned to use. The only place I could find it was casinocom.com, and they were down most of the time. I have sample photos from another board member that used it for his table, and it looks great.

Ten

[TenPercenter]

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I know this seems a bit obvious as an image, but what about a pyramid?

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I plan to use other images on the plaque, such as pyramids, vultures, and the Sphynx. It'll have more "canvas" to play with.

I just thought of something, what about using "papyrus" as the background on the plaque, instead of bricks like on the other chips? Egyptians used papyrus for canvas and paper. Papyrus looks like this:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:dbkWozIJfSAJ:tubes.ominix.com/art/misc/papyrus-01.png

problem: There's no longer a "themed" color for the plaque. But will I really need a main color? It'll have "$5,000" in big gold numbers, and will be a big rectangle that'll be impossible to mistake for any other chip...

Ten

BTW: What I mean by "vultures" is below, but a better sample will be on the chip. There will be two in the top corners, "framing" the rectangle.

http://www.shira.net/nekhbet.gif

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Here are the actual ones I want to use on the $5k plaque:

http://thecagles.com/pix/jw_vult2.gif http://thecagles.com/pix/jw_vult2-right.gif

Ten

[wacki]

Ten, those vultures are absolutely beautifull. I can't wait to see the plaques/new chips.

[Craig_W]

Umm pardon my ignorance, but what is an 89mm plaque, and 44mm octagon? Please explain, thnx Craig

[slavic]

http://www.chipco.com/cata/size.gif

[TenPercenter]

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Umm pardon my ignorance, but what is an 89mm plaque, and 44mm octagon? Please explain, thnx Craig

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In addition to the picture above, here's what they actually look like. That's the plaque and also you can see an octagon, which will be my $1,000.

Ten

http://www.chipco.com/cata/chipco/images/prod/pro.jpg

[Fins]

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That is awesome, I wish Kems/Copags had that. Mind posting a pic of your egyptian card artwork? I'm definitely going to make a deck.

BTW try http://www.playtables.com/ that should work (you need the www)

The poker table stuff is here. I like the 4 suit fabric a lot.

http://www.playtables.com/Professional_Tables/professional_tables.html

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From the accessories link...
"UNDER CONSTRUCTION 01-09-02"

Not a good sign /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Felts look cool... and costly /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Anyone ever contact them or get a quote? I like the 4-suit felt - is there any other source or can you just get the felt from them?

Thanks,
Fins

[Lumpy]

Even more themed cards for you.

http://www.unclesgames.com/product_info.php?ref=2&products_id=1663&affiliate_ banner_id=1

Don't know what the quality of Piatnik cards are , but they say they are plastic.

[unloaded]

I saw your ballpark figures for the new chips, was wondering if you could add a few other ballpark figures?
1) cost of origianl chips, for those who didn't get in on first go round?
2) what stage of the artwork for the new ones are you at, and timeframe for finishing this stage?
3) an idea of demand for next order(new and original chips)? interest-check, pledge, deposit....
4) idea of deadline to get in on this deal?
5) once order is placed, how long before you get them?
6) once you get them, how long before we do?

Lots of questions, I know. And putting them in writing I realize even more what you are up against. Basically I'm asking for a guesstimate timeline. I realize you can't really give any numbers or prices until you have a good idea of the amounts you will be ordering. I also know that getting a solid number(with people committing and then backing out) can be tricky. Maybe a deposit would be a good idea. People could put down say ?10%? with intial comittment and the rest right before order was placed. If they backed out for some reason, the deposits could still be used to absorb setup fees and such. Sorry if it seems like I'm badgering you, it's just that I'm really excited about these chips, wish I'd saw the thread before the first order was placed.

BTW: If you are really interested in a custom cloth for your table here is a guy that can do them:
http://stores.ebay.com/Poker-Cats_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm
He does dye sublimation printing on the cloths. I bought an octagon rail from him with embroidered suits. He wasn't offering rails only but he gave me his phone number and we worked out a deal over the phone. If you have an ebay account, shoot him an email asking for his number, if not PM me I'll give it to you. Here's a pic of my table:
http://members.sigecom.net/unloaded/table2.jpg
peace.
unloaded

[StevieG]

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I bought an octagon rail from him with embroidered suits.

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That looks sweet, Unloaded. Have you played with 8 players at the table? Was it comfortable?

[TenPercenter]

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I saw your ballpark figures for the new chips, was wondering if you could add a few other ballpark figures?
1) cost of origianl chips, for those who didn't get in on first go round?

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First order was .95 a chip, shipped. But .13 of that was art alone. flat chip price was .76 which will now be 1.10. That's already moved it up quite a bit. The art price will get lower with every chip that is ordered. This new art price might be the same as last time (almost $1,000) since we are ordering odd pieces. I have to figure out how to divvy up thqat price now, since we already incurred cost on the five other chips, and no one else will have that cost...

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2) what stage of the artwork for the new ones are you at, and timeframe for finishing this stage?

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I've sent instructions and base images to the art department. I figure a two week process on that part. Add two weeks for revisions. So Janurary before proofs are final.


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3) an idea of demand for next order(new and original chips)? interest-check, pledge, deposit....

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I'm not even that close yet. I won't make a formal offer until I have the proofs. I can say that MORE people have asked this time, and over 10,000 chips showed interest last time. Total Guess? 15,000 - 20,000 ordered.

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4) idea of deadline to get in on this deal?

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Nope. Not even close to thinking about deadlines.


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5) once order is placed, how long before you get them?

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Four - Six weeks.


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6) once you get them, how long before we do?

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Within the week that I get them.

Ten

[Ghazban]

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25¢ - Blue - 39mm round - Ankh
$1 - White - 39mm round - Cartouche reading "Poker Oasis"
$5 - Red - 39mm round - Pharoah on throne
$25 - Green - 39mm round - Eye of Ra, the Udjat
$100 - Black - 39mm round - Winged Scarab
$500 - Gold - 39mm round - Nefertiti
$1,000 - Orange - 44mm octagon - Anubis
$5,000 - Royal Purple - 89mm Plaque - Tutankhamen (and more)

Ten

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Just a thought here-- why $1000 and $5000 for the top 2 denominations? With a $500 chip already in existence, a $1000 isn't really necessary. It seems that a logical progression for the new top 2 denominations would be $2,500 and $10,000.

[TenPercenter]

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25¢ - Blue - 39mm round - Ankh
$1 - White - 39mm round - Cartouche reading "Poker Oasis"
$5 - Red - 39mm round - Pharoah on throne
$25 - Green - 39mm round - Eye of Ra, the Udjat
$100 - Black - 39mm round - Winged Scarab
$500 - Gold - 39mm round - Nefertiti
$1,000 - Orange - 44mm octagon - Anubis
$5,000 - Royal Purple - 89mm Plaque - Tutankhamen (and more)

Ten

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Just a thought here-- why $1000 and $5000 for the top 2 denominations? With a $500 chip already in existence, a $1000 isn't really necessary. It seems that a logical progression for the new top 2 denominations would be $2,500 and $10,000.

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With a strict prgression of X5 (or X4) yes. But have you seen a $2,500 chip? Just doesn't seem right to me. $10k yes...

Ten

[Ghazban]

I've never actually seen a chip over $500, though I know they exist /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I just don't like having a chip in the set that is only 2x the value of another chip. Maybe that's standard in casinos (I haven't a clue-- we're talking well above my spending limits here) but I just don't see the utility in a home setup. While I'd like to have a complete set, I think this issue might be enough to keep me from ordering any of that denomination (not a threat or anything; just telling it like it is).

Edit: just checked Foxwoods' home page-- they have $500, $1000, and $5000 chips. Maybe I just have to get used to the idea...

[TenPercenter]

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I've never actually seen a chip over $500, though I know they exist /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I just don't like having a chip in the set that is only 2x the value of another chip. Maybe that's standard in casinos (I haven't a clue-- we're talking well above my spending limits here) but I just don't see the utility in a home setup. While I'd like to have a complete set, I think this issue might be enough to keep me from ordering any of that denomination (not a threat or anything; just telling it like it is).

Edit: just checked Foxwoods' home page-- they have $500, $1000, and $5000 chips. Maybe I just have to get used to the idea...

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I've never used a "real" chip bigger than a $100. /images/graemlins/smile.gif What I meant, was in poker chip sets for the home. All the ones I have seen go $500, $1k, and $5k. I see that Foxwoods backs me up on that. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am trying to keep the set both unique and "authentic." Unique because you'll never see another like it. Authentic in that if there were a TenPercenter Casino, these chips would fit right in. I don't know, I guess I've been looking at different chip sets for so long, it just seems natural to me to have these denoms. I'm even avoiding a .50 piece when one of the members REALLY wants one. It just doesn't fit in IMO.

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Foxwoods has a $1,000 chip and it's orange. Everyone makes a $500 and a $1000 chip. Right now I use the James Bond $500 and $1000 chips at home. They both come in handy quite often. I don't see anything wrong with having both of those. If anything it makes the transistion easier if the game decides to move up in stakes. You don't want $2,500 chips. If you start using a lot of thousand dollar chips it's nice to have the denominations in a similar structure to the way they are on the sub-thousand dollar chips.

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Foxwoods has a $1,000 chip and it's orange. Everyone makes a $500 and a $1000 chip. Right now I use the James Bond $500 and $1000 chips at home. They both come in handy quite often. I don't see anything wrong with having both of those. If anything it makes the transistion easier if the game decides to move up in stakes. You don't want $2,500 chips. If you start using a lot of thousand dollar chips it's nice to have the denominations in a similar structure to the way they are on the sub-thousand dollar chips.

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That's a good point. Really, it's a simple math thing. I play a lot with my family, not just poker experts. I can see us in a tournament and my Mom trying to decide how much money 12 x $2,500 chips is. /images/graemlins/smile.gif It's much easier to determine 30 x $1,000. (even for me!)

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[Ghazban]

A quick thought on the color of the $5K plaque-- namely, does it matter? Since its such a radically different size and shape from the other chips in the set, its not so important to have a sharp color contrast. Sure, it'd be nice if it worked out nicely in the colors you've picked but if its difficult to work the theme and images into that color, it wouldn't be a big problem if a color closer to one of the other chip colors was used instead.

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A quick thought on the color of the $5K plaque-- namely, does it matter? Since its such a radically different size and shape from the other chips in the set, its not so important to have a sharp color contrast. Sure, it'd be nice if it worked out nicely in the colors you've picked but if its difficult to work the theme and images into that color, it wouldn't be a big problem if a color closer to one of the other chip colors was used instead.

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I was thinking the same thing at first. (See the above post about using papyrus as a background). But I was convinced in keeping the bricks to keep them all together. If I'm gonna use bricks, may as well pick a hue.

I've already sent the design instructions to Chipco. We'll see how it looks when I get it back.

Ten

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Ten,

I personally am very interested in getting in on this set. I think that your idea of making the $5,000 plaque a deep purple is the best way to go because (If I am not mistaken)in ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was so expensive to make. I think it will contrast nicely with King Tut's mask

BTW--Love the vulture image for the $1000 chip as well and love the idea of making the 1k and 5k denoms unorthodox shapes in order to make them extra special.

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I personally am very interested in getting in on this set. I think that your idea of making the $5,000 plaque a deep purple is the best way to go because (If I am not mistaken)in ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was so expensive to make. I think it will contrast nicely with King Tut's mask

BTW--Love the vulture image for the $1000 chip as well and love the idea of making the 1k and 5k denoms unorthodox shapes in order to make them extra special.

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I agree 100%. By the way purple came from grinding seashells and it was very expensive and time consuming to make due to the massive quantities of shells required:

The colorless dye is present in shellfish and in the hypobranchial gland of snails which was removed and by exposure to sunlight and air developed. The shells of species found were in 2 piles, 1. the banded dye-murex (Phyllonotus (Murex) trunculus), 2. the spiny dye-murex (Bolinus (Murex) brandaris), 3. rock shell or oyster drill, Thais haemastoma.

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I personally am very interested in getting in on this set. I think that your idea of making the $5,000 plaque a deep purple is the best way to go because (If I am not mistaken)in ancient times purple was the color of royalty because it was so expensive to make. I think it will contrast nicely with King Tut's mask

BTW--Love the vulture image for the $1000 chip as well and love the idea of making the 1k and 5k denoms unorthodox shapes in order to make them extra special.

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I agree 100%. By the way purple came from grinding seashells and it was very expensive and time consuming to make due to the massive quantities of shells required:

The colorless dye is present in shellfish and in the hypobranchial gland of snails which was removed and by exposure to sunlight and air developed. The shells of species found were in 2 piles, 1. the banded dye-murex (Phyllonotus (Murex) trunculus), 2. the spiny dye-murex (Bolinus (Murex) brandaris), 3. rock shell or oyster drill, Thais haemastoma.

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This goes to #1 on the list of things I never thought I'd learn on a poker forum /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Seriously, though, its interesting info.

Speaking of colors and royalty, wasn't there a particular color of ink that was used only by the emperor in feudal Japan (vermillion, maybe)? If I recall correctly, anyone else using that particular ink was put to death in some gruesome fashion. Doesn't directly apply to an Egyptian set of poker chips, but its still interesting.

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Umm pardon my ignorance, but what is an 89mm plaque, and 44mm octagon? Please explain, thnx Craig

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In addition to the picture above, here's what they actually look like. That's the plaque and also you can see an octagon, which will be my $1,000.

Ten

http://www.chipco.com/cata/chipco/images/prod/pro.jpg

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This is a photo I took in Vegas last year. I wish there was a way I could use it on a plaque. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ten

http://thecagles.com/pix/luxor.JPG

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It might be as simple as asking them for permission. Another option would be to have it converted from a pixel photo to a vector based graphic. I'm sure there wouldn't be any infringement problems then.

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PS: This page shows a cartouche with Tut's name, not sure of the validity:
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/cartouche.htm

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This is a photo I took in Vegas last year. I wish there was a way I could use it on a plaque.


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You know I'm not a copyright lawyer, but I'm not so sure that you would have a problem using that image. According to wikipedia, "displaying a photo of a sculpture or building doesn't violate the "copyright" of that sculpture or building." Under that theory, you would be the owner of the copyright of the picture (and would not be infringing the rights of the owner of the building).

Again, I'm not an expert in the area, but if you like the image (I think it's great) it's probably worth checking on the question with a copyright lawyer (if you know one).

Also, if I'm wrong and your photo would be an infringing "derivative work", my guess is you will never get anyone to consent to your use of the image.

Just my 2cents.

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This is a photo I took in Vegas last year. I wish there was a way I could use it on a plaque.


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You know I'm not a copyright lawyer, but I'm not so sure that you would have a problem using that image. According to wikipedia, "displaying a photo of a sculpture or building doesn't violate the "copyright" of that sculpture or building." Under that theory, you would be the owner of the copyright of the picture (and would not be infringing the rights of the owner of the building).

Again, I'm not an expert in the area, but if you like the image (I think it's great) it's probably worth checking on the question with a copyright lawyer (if you know one).

Also, if I'm wrong and your photo would be an infringing "derivative work", my guess is you will never get anyone to consent to your use of the image.

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This makes sense. Think "paparazzi."

What do you think of using it though, copyrights aside?

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[ericslagle]

As a photographer and someone who owns a record company I'm familiar enough with copyright law to be pretty sure you wouldn't be able to use that photo. If it was a picture of a downtown skyline it would be ok, but since it focuses on the one building, you would have to get permission.
For example, in Seattle, you can use the skyline with the space needle, but not JUST the space needle without permission. Or in NY you could to the skyline, but not just a picture of the Empire State Building.
But, you personally probably wouldn't even get stress since your not profitting - but chipco could.