Prima Poker, Stay away from their sites.

[fullofaces]

Prima Poker was once thought to be a good group of sites. But with the acceptance of Desert Poker, owned and run by Bobby Torello(sp, a known site that stiffed many players, this has thrown a cloud of doubt over their intregrity.
What makes it worse is that PRIMA has refused to make any statement, either here on the boards or by emails that have been sent to them, concerning this. They obviously don't have any defense as to how they could let a site like Desert into their group, or they are hoping that this will go away. IT WON'T!!!! There have been many posts here about problems with some of the Prima sites, and especially the addition of Desert Poker. But they refuse to address these issues. They are now showing they are not the class act they once were. They must be more interested with quantity rather than quality.

[fluff]

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There have been many posts here about problems with some of the Prima sites, and especially the addition of Desert Poker.

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Mostly by you and your cohorts.

It is not necessary to start a new thread every damn day. Just bump your old ones.

On a side note, my one experience with Desert/City Poker have been positive, and my cash out was paid in 48 hours.

[fullofaces]

Dont' know what you mean about starting a thread every day...that is not the case here....
Tell me what you have a problem with or believe to be untrue. Is it that Desert has stiffed many players? The posts here should show you how wrong you are. There have been many players stiffed by this site and for alot of money. Or is it with Prima Poker that allowed a site with this history to join their group? Either way, your so called endorsement is the only one I have seen on this subject..
Makes one believe that maybe you are an employee of Desert trying to hide the truth about the site.

[GrannyMae]

RVP and the Bellerock rooms (tgc, riverbelle and lucky nugget) are class acts. RVP is rich in poker pros that would never associate themselves with anything smarmy, and bellerock is probably the most solid casino group on the entire PLANET.

stop the smears. if you have a particular problem or some complete evidence, present it. don't just be a whiny baby. like it or not, prima is now top 5 and will remain a major player in internet poker. the games don't get much jucier, and the only people (with a couple of exceptions) that have a problem with them are usually up to no good or are sour that they are being held to terms and conditions they agreed to upon opening their account.

[GrannyMae]

There have been many players stiffed by this site and for alot of money.

how many players, and for how much? don't generalize. that's an immature way to make a case.

[jagoff]

I liked City Poker! I will go back! I got my money and I got it quickly. Quit being a whiny douche

[fluff]

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Dont' know what you mean about starting a thread every day...that is not the case here....

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So you didn't start this thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1279562&page=1&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1



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Tell me what you have a problem with or believe to be untrue.

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Apparently you are not that good at reading. My problem is with you creating posts pretty much saying the same things over and over again, as well as having your friends chime in with the same crap.



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Is it that Desert has stiffed many players? The posts here should show you how wrong you are.

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Posts? By whom? Oh you mean your cohorts? Lets see:

fullofaces
stranger
Reged: 11/19/04
Posts: 19

chrys
stranger
Reged: 11/22/04
Posts: 3

Viper
stranger
Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 13

Tim123456
stranger
Reged: 11/19/04
Posts: 3

Did I miss anyone? Are these actually individual people or just you with different names?

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Or is it with Prima Poker that allowed a site with this history to join their group? Either way, your so called endorsement is the only one I have seen on this subject.

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Maybe you should stop making aliases and read the forums. Prima group is highly respected here.


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Makes one believe that maybe you are an employee of Desert trying to hide the truth about the site.

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Check my registration date. Check my post count. Check my post history.

However, checking your profile shows that you just registered 5 days ago, and you spend the majority of your posts badmouthing Prima and even Party poker. Maybe you are a rogue employee of a rogue site that is trying to talk down the competition.

Things that make you go hmmm....

[BradleyT]

CityPoker of the Prima Network sucks. I thought they had unlocked my account when in reality all they did was unlock it so I could log in - I still can't Sit Down (http://www.bradleyt.com/citypoker.gif) at a table or cash out.

So they open another investigation as to why I can't sit down. In their previous investigation (which lasted 3 weeks and didn't accomplish anything) I explained the entire situation - two seperate prima accounts (each with a verifiable person owning the account) from the same household logged in from same computer over the course of a week (not simultaneously).

3 weeks to investigate that and then unlock my account so I can log in but not play. Now it's going on a week as to why I can't play or cash out.

You don't even have to ask what my impression of Prima is.

[BradleyT]

And the sad thing is - the BetOnUSA account wasn't even a real money account. My mom got a snail mail saying $250 free with no obligations that was never received after numerous emails. Then she got an e-mail to play in a freeroll and did so from my computer and after that day is when all the accounts became locked. Christ it was an account with no money in it lol.

[bosoxfan]

I put in for my first cash out from Royal Vegas on Monday night. It hit neteller this afternoon whithout a problem.

[GrannyMae]

you are the exact person i was referring to when i said (with a few exceptions).

all sites seem to screw over a few 'good guys' in the course of business, and unfortunately you were the one to take the statistical hit.

[CountDuckula]

Do you ever have anything else to say?

-Mike

[gabyyyyy]

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RVP and the Bellerock rooms (tgc, riverbelle and lucky nugget) are class acts. RVP is rich in poker pros that would never associate themselves with anything smarmy, and bellerock is probably the most solid casino group on the entire PLANET.

stop the smears. if you have a particular problem or some complete evidence, present it. don't just be a whiny baby. like it or not, prima is now top 5 and will remain a major player in internet poker. the games don't get much jucier, and the only people (with a couple of exceptions) that have a problem with them are usually up to no good or are sour that they are being held to terms and conditions they agreed to upon opening their account.


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If I had balls, I'd tell prima to suck them.

Prima Sucks!

[Synergistic Explosions]

Prima is OK if you dont get on the wrong side of their emonious rules and terms. Tread lightly and you will do alright there.

As far as linking Desert Poker with Prima, I think that is unfair. Desert was a stand alone failed sight before they came up with a seeming rescue plan.

If you had money on Desert after realizing that in half a year they couldnt get a full table going 24hrs a day, then you deserve partly the fault of losing your money. It was inevitable.

[grey poupon dude]

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Prima Sucks!

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That's right, Prima sucks!

FullofAces is telling the truth. Heck, he has no motive or reason to lie. What reason in the world would he have for making this up?

Under Standard Internet Protocol, if a gaming site is accused of wrongdoing, then the burden of proof falls on the casino to prove they did nothing wrong.

A case of libel would not be actionable against fullofaces. His statement is true, therefore they are not libelous.

Gaming Club still owes gabbyyy $50. And they are too cheap to pay up.

[gabyyyyy]

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A case of libel would not be actionable against fullofaces. His statement is true, therefore they are not libelous.

Gaming Club still owes gabbyyy $50. And they are too cheap to pay up.


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I would love to see these scumballs in court. Their whole operation would be shut down in a matter of hours.

BTW, Who the fuk are you grey? 20 posts, hmmm I wonder who you work for.. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[fullofaces]

Funny how some people come on a defend a site that stiffed people. They would probably be the first ones to cry when it happens to them. I never did generalize, there have been many players here that have complained about desert stiffing them. As for a group of us props they hired, they stiffed us out of $11K.
I have also seen many people refer to Desert as city poker. I contacted City Poker and they say they have no affiliation with Desert.
As for one poster here claiming that Desert turned things around. What a joke, they sneaked into Prima under someone elses license...that is part of my problem with Prima. How could they let that happen? And it wasn't such a sneak job either. I was at the Desert office the other day and had to wait because two Prima representatives were in a meeting with the owner of Desert, the same guy that stiffed everyone. So tell me they didn't know who they were getting into business with.

[mosta]

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their emonious rules and

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For a second I thought maybe this wasn't some bizarre misspelling and was actually a word I didn't know (introduced on this site). Of course I was disappointed. Please try to explain what word you are trying to use with "emonious". onerous? enormous?

[fullofaces]

I'm not saying Prima is totally bad, but they have certainly tarnished their reputation by allowing Desert Poker into their group. Makes you wonder how many other sites in thier group have done the same.

[fatshaft]

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I'm not saying Prima is totally bad, but they have certainly tarnished their reputation by allowing Desert Poker into their group. Makes you wonder how many other sites in thier group have done the same.

[/ QUOTE ]Am I stupid? Desert poker = City Poker? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Izaak_Walton]

I don't see Desert Poker listed on the prima website--are they City? Guy above says no--if not what alias are they using?????