88 turns me into a calling station

[prayformojo]

I just couldn't see any point in this hand at which I could either bet or raise for value, or any other reason. I also couldn't see a place where I could fold. Anyone hit this harder or get out at any point?

Fewer than 20 hands from each villain, so not much in the way of reads, especially post-flop. In the 19 hands I've seen for him, MP1 has seen the flop in 18. BB doesn't appear to be particularly loose or a wild pre-flop raiser.


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (7.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

[Fat Nicky]

I think I would fold the flop.

[Walrus]

I play it the same way. You'll out-flush him enough to be profitable here. Get to a showdown as cheaply as possible.

[Rico Suave]

Prayformojo:

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I also couldn't see a place where I could fold.

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How about the flop?

--Rico

[spamuell]

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Prayformojo:

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I also couldn't see a place where I could fold.

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How about the flop?

--Rico

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But it's likely you have the BB either outpaired (probably not but then it appears you did) or outflushdrawed and MP1 could have a lot of hands given that he's seen 18/19 flops and you're getting 10:1. I would not fold this flop.

I would have bet the river though.

[Walrus]

I would have bet the river though.

What do you do if raised on the river?

[spamuell]

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I would have bet the river though.

What do you do if raised on the river?

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Lose.

But I'd call anyway against an unknown because I am consistently shocked at the hands that sometimes raise me on the river and you're getting 9.5:1.

[Evan]

its fine until the river where I'd bet for value and call a raise.

[Rico Suave]

Spammuel:

If you disregard the turn action, I cannot believe you think you *likely* have the BB out paired. IMO, you are most likely behind and drawing to either an 8, or to a flush with 8 kicker. HU, I agree that continuing is fine, but throw in the MP1 caller (who admittedly can have anyting), and I am not liking my draw so much.

--Rico