View Full Version : I flop top two and play it poorly.
MoreWineII
11-22-2004, 12:55 PM
UB 4/8. Fairly LAGgy game.
Hero is the BB with AKo. Very loose (has raised PF with A6o, 89s, KTo, etc.) and aggressive MP open-raises, button cold-calls, I 3-bet, both players call.
Flop: AK7r. Hero bets, MP raises, button folds, I call, intending to check-raise the turn.
Turn: Q. Hero checks, MP checks. Bleh.
River: 7. Hero bets, MP calls.
Given MP's tendencies, I think I should have just rammed and jammed with this one. You think that MP's turn check might be an indicator that maybe he's not so LAGgy. You'd be wrong.
slogger
11-22-2004, 12:58 PM
No, still think he's LAGgy. Just because he knows a scary board when facing a pre-flop 3-bettor when he sees one doesn't mean he's not still LAGgy.
He called your river bet with QTo, didn't he?
MoreWineII
11-22-2004, 01:05 PM
Eh, let's put it this way: I was ahead preflop, on the flop, on the turn, and I was behind on the river. To a hand even a LAG couldn't raise with.
smoore
11-22-2004, 01:05 PM
I like your play, you tried for the CR and basically ended up missing one bet for what you must have felt was better than a 50% chance of getting two on the turn. If he's a real maniac he may even reraise your CR if he's got two pair also. I don't know if you did, but I would have to "think" about my call on the flop for about 10 seconds.
Sarge85
11-22-2004, 01:06 PM
Just because you missed a check-raise doesn't mean you played the hand poorly. You had an accurate read, and a situation that provided an opportunity to act on that read.
I wouldn't kick yourself too hard about it.
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smoore
11-22-2004, 01:07 PM
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Eh, let's put it this way: I was ahead preflop, on the flop, on the turn, and I was behind on the river. To a hand even a LAG couldn't raise with.
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Argh. The mighty 72o wins again huh?
MoreWineII
11-22-2004, 01:09 PM
I think you might be right. It doesn't look as bad once I put it down in writing. I think it's partly the Missed-Check-Raise Blues.
slogger
11-22-2004, 01:22 PM
Maniac raising whenever first in and sometimes after limpers open-raises in MP, I 3-bet on the button with KK, and only Maniac calls.
Flop: Kd 5h 2d
We cap the flop.
Turn: Td
We cap the turn
River: brick
I call a bet. Maniac show 8d3d for the turned flush.
This is how my day went yesterday. /images/graemlins/mad.gif
Variance is a beautiful flower, but like many other flowers it must regularly wither and die before blooming anew in the spring. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
MoreWineII
11-22-2004, 01:28 PM
Villian had 67s and I lost.
I hear ya slogger, that was pretty much my day yesterday. +50 BB on Saturday, -40 BB on Sunday.
Draws weren't hitting and big pairs were getting crapped on. Embrace the variance.
TripleH68
11-22-2004, 01:31 PM
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Eh, let's put it this way: I was ahead preflop, on the flop, on the turn, and I was behind on the river. To a hand even a LAG couldn't raise with.
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Plenty of young guys just love playing the suited connectors. Must be thanks to ESPN. Sorry about the "young" stereotype but I see this quite a bit at the B&M.
Sarge85
11-22-2004, 01:41 PM
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Villian had 67s and I lost.
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At least he had the decency to save you one BB.
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MoreWineII
11-22-2004, 01:44 PM
Given my line, I think it would be hard for him to put me on anything other than AA, KK, or QQ. And of course, AK. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif
But yah, I'm still surprised he didn't pop the river.
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