quick preflop question

[etizzle]

typical party 15 game

Hero is button with J /images/graemlins/heart.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

1 fold, UTG +1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 coldcalls, MP2 coldcalls, 1 fold, CO coldcalls, hero...?

[exist]

3 bets.

[random]

Three-bets.

[SinCityGuy]

Raise it up!

[Mr. Amanti]

would the real dillip please stand up

[Enon]

Pop it again.

[etizzle]

yeah so i posted this to prove a point to my friend, who keeps throwing away money becuase he says 'jacks dont hold up multiway unless they flop a set.' doesn't

is there anyone who doesn't 3 bet this?

[Enon]

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yeah so i posted this to prove a point to my friend, who keeps throwing away money becuase he says 'jacks dont hold up multiway unless they flop a set.'

is there anyone who does not 3 bet this?

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Ask your friend how often AA holds up in a 8-way pot and then ask him whether he would 3-bet AA here on the button with that many callers.

[Lawrence Ng]

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is there anyone who doesn't 3 bet this?

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Lots of bad players don't.

[JasonP530]

I would three bet it generally as well, but I dont think it is as clear cut as you guys are making it out to be. If you 3 bet, you are looking at a 4 way pot, which is tough for jacks to hold up. On Party, if you reraise and UTG caps it, are you going to lay down on a low flop? I see the point of getting the money in when you are usually 50/50 with UTG and everyone else is way behind, but you can sometimes extract more profit when you catch a good(low or J) flop, if you have just CC'd. Any thoughts on this? Everyone 3 bet AK(suited or not) on the button here as well?

[Peter_rus]

3-bet.

[Peter_rus]

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On Party, if you reraise and UTG caps it, are you going to lay down on a low flop?

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No im going for a raise it as most players can cap AK as well as high pairs.

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Everyone 3 bet AK(suited or not) on the button here as well?

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I would 3-bet.

[mmcd]

Not 3-betting JJ or AKo here would be a pretty serious mistake. Not 3-betting AKs here would be a crime against humanity.

[Dark Force Rising]

Is the auto 3 bet concensus the result of accumualted PT stats showing it as +EV? A couple of years ago I would think that "just call but once in a while 3 bet to mix things up" would have been the mantra.

[Klepton]

this is why I hold the Raise Any button with JJ. Takes away the confusion

[AviD]

3-bet and take a sip of your coffee, you need some caffeine! /images/graemlins/wink.gif