Did I play correct??

Hi all.


I played in this tourney in the weekend, and the following hand came up. We started 210 players, and only 7 players got paid. Buy-in was 1200 $, and one rebuy. First got payed 40 %, Second 20 %, third 15 %, fourth 10 %, Fifth 6 %, Sixth 5 %, and seventh 4 %.


We're down to 11 players. 6 players at my table, were this hand came up:


Game: 7 card stud.

Limits doubling every 20 minutes.

Spread limit at this moment: 2000-8000 $

Ante: 2000 $

bring-in: 1000 $

Here is the hand:


A deuce bring it in for 1000 $ He has about 20000 in chips

A Six fold. He has about 8500 in chips

A Ace folds. He has about 15000 in chips.

A king raise with 6000, and now has only 5000 left in chips.

A Nine fold. He is chipleader with 25000.

I got 10-13-10, and have 14500 in chips. I decide to reraise with 5000 and to move him all-in.

Bring-in folds, and the king calls:

He turn over his hands showing 2 kings, and wins the pot at the end with a house, and I have only 2 pairs - 10s and 4s. After this hand I only had 2500 back in chips, and get busted a couple of hands later and finished in 8th place........


The reason why I decide to reraise him is that I figured him to be on a steal,and I wanted to find out if he really did have the kings. He was a agressiv player, and had stolen alot of pots earlier on when he was high on board. There was also only a couple of minutes until the limit was double to 4000-16000. And my 14500 would't have lasted long at that limit.

Should I have folded the hand, and then played it safe to get in the money?? I mean only 4 players were to get out, and I was in the money!


Any help is appreciated,

Daniel

If he's not stealing, you're behind, and noticeably so. If he is stealing, you're ahead, but not by very much. Put those together, and you should've folded.


Try to win hands that you can steal on third street.


BTW, did you mean a $200 ante? $2000 is so huge that you'd be pot stuck every hand.


Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

hi Again.


On my above question the bring-in should be 2000 and the ante 1000, sorry about that. So the currect question with reverse bring-in and ante goes like this:


Hi all.


I played in this tourney in the weekend, and the following hand came up. We started 210 players, and only 7 players got paid. Buy-in was 1200 $, and one rebuy. First got payed 40 %, Second 20 %, third 15 %, fourth 10 %, Fifth 6 %, Sixth 5 %, and seventh 4 %.


We're down to 11 players. 6 players at my table, were this hand came up:


Game: 7 card stud.

Limits doubling every 20 minutes.

Spread limit at this moment: 2000-8000 $

Ante: 1000 $

bring-in: 2000 $

Here is the hand:


A deuce bring it in for 1000 $ He has about 20000 in chips

A Six fold. He has about 8500 in chips

A Ace folds. He has about 15000 in chips.

A king raise with 6000, and now has only 5000 left in chips.

A Nine fold. He is chipleader with 25000.

I got 10-13-10, and have 14500 in chips. I decide to reraise with 5000 and to move him all-in.

Bring-in folds, and the king calls:

He turn over his hands showing 2 kings, and wins the pot at the end with a house, and I have only 2 pairs - 10s and 4s. After this hand I only had 2500 back in chips, and get busted a couple of hands later and finished in 8th place........


The reason why I decide to reraise him is that I figured him to be on a steal,and I wanted to find out if he really did have the kings. He was a agressiv player, and had stolen alot of pots earlier on when he was high on board. There was also only a couple of minutes until the limit was double to 4000-16000. And my 14500 would't have lasted long at that limit.

Should I have folded the hand, and then played it safe to get in the money?? I mean only 4 players were to get out, and I was in the money!


Any help is appreciated,

Daniel

Just one point to add, you say you "want to find out" if he really has kings. When he calls all-in, presumably you have found out. Not much you can do about it now though is there ? Take my point ?


In general though while I would certainly not be folding just to get into the money as a rule, in this situation when someone has already raised before me I normally (unless the guy is a maniac) need a better hand than what he is representing to play back. I'm still not clear on your structure (it sounds like everyone is remarkably short-stacked compared to the ante even if it is 1000) but have played a lot of Pot-limit Stud which is similar, at least at this stage.


Andy.

Hi Andy.


Thanks for your replay, yes everyone at my table was very short stacked. The other table had all the chips.......


Daniel

I suspect that it had been a while since you had played a hand. If so, it's sometimes tempting to find reasons to play 10,10. Sounds to me as though you found a reason and married the hand.


I need to dominate a raiser's indcated hand to play one here. Or be so severely chip stacked that I have no other choice.


Keep Playing hard!.

Hi Greg.


The ante was at that point 1000 $, and bring-in 2000 $. Does that make a difference??

At the point where the king raises there is 14000 $ in the pot, is that not a big pot to win?? Also remember that the limit was about to double up, so did't I have to take a chance, because I could survieve that many hands on the next level.


Thanks,

Daniel