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[Danenania]

CO here is loose preflop and somewhat aggressive postflop, likes to bluff. Button is too tight preflop (14/11) and highly aggressive postflop. Comments on all streets and turn c/r appreciated.

Party 5/10 6-max, 5 handed.

Hero is SB with 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif.

UTG folds, CO limps, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop (8 sb): 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gifK /images/graemlins/club.gifK /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Hero checks planning to c/r, BB checks, CO bets, Button raises, Hero coldcalls, BB folds, CO folds.

Turn (6.5 bb): 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises...

[Nate tha' Great]

Calling two cold on the flop and investing two more bets on a turn check-raise is much, much too expensive. You have to hope both that nobody has a king, and that nobody calls down with a higher pocket pair or outdraws you. BTW, Button sounds like the sort of player who is capable of playing trips fast.

[imported_stealthcow]

if he's too tight preflop i'd guess his hands to be around

AK - AJ AKs - ATs KQs KJs KQo along with AA - 99. the fact that he also raises the original raise on the flop makes me think he has QQ or JJ. AA is possible, but i dont think he has it, you said he's quite aggressive but i also feel like he has sufficient action to wait on the turn to put a raise in with a made hand like AK AA or KQ.

btw, i dont relaly like the cold call on the flop. i'm new to 5/10 sh ( 6500 hands ) but i feel like at that point you have to know if you're ahead or behind. throw in an extra bet if you think you're ahead bet and give a flush draw a harder time. the only hands i you have beat are flush draws AQ, AJ and AT

but maybe i can learn a thing or two from this hand /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Danenania]

That's what I thought after I did it. Though it was a tempting situation, I guess it wasn't quite good enough and I let FPS got the better of me. I think a problem of mine is occasionally trying too hard to make use of a read when the situation doesn't really warrant it.

Is this play much better if I'm sure the Button is tight enough to throw away any overpair on the turn?

[JrJordan]

I was thinking a little bit at first about possibly folding this PF. You're out of position with a tightie who raises to you. He most likely has good overs or an overpair. However, I think only having to call 1.5 SB and assuming the limper and BB come along, the cold call is probably good here.

Flop: I probably bet out here and see what kind of reaction I get. A raise and reraise from the limper and button gets me out of the pot in a hurry. If they call, I bet out again on the turn if a non-scare card. If the limper calls and button raises, I probably throw in a 3bet to see if I can get the limper out. A cap from the button here then its a judgement call for you to call it down, but I'd most likely check/fold the turn unimproved.

[Danenania]

The problem I have with betting out is that it doesn't help protect the pot at all and the Button is likely to raise with pretty much anything. I think this hand would have played pretty easily if the CO hadn't bet in the first place and allowed me to proceed with my flop c/r. After being faced with two cold, things started to go haywire.

[Danenania]

Also: would check/3-betting the flop have been a better option? Still too expensive?

[Nate tha' Great]

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That's what I thought after I did it. Though it was a tempting situation, I guess it wasn't quite good enough and I let FPS got the better of me. I think a problem of mine is occasionally trying too hard to make use of a read when the situation doesn't really warrant it.

Is this play much better if I'm sure the Button is tight enough to throw away any overpair on the turn?

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The play would pretty clearly be +EV if the Button were capable of throwing away any hand that didn't contain a King. I don't think you'll encounter too many players like that.

BTW, if I had like JJ, and I saw you make that cold call against me, I would check behind on the turn almost 100% of the time and call your bet on the river.