Tupac

[ThaSaltCracka]

Those of you that hate him please explain why.

[Homer]

Is he a rapper or something? Rap sucks.

[BusterStacks]

1) His rhymes are not very creative (ex. how many times does he need to say something about his enemieeeeeees per album).

2) His style is repetative ( probably half of his songs are in the same tempo and cadence)

3) NOT REALLY A THUG ( perhaps this is my biggest, but Tupac to me is a huge faker. I mean, dude went to private art school growing up, wrote poetry, and was a freakin background dancer for god's sake. Also had plans to retire to a farm after rapping.)

4) Starts [censored] with people ( It's his own fault he got killed, and it's also his fault Biggie is dead. )

5) Not Talented ( I seriously want to make a website quiz where it's Tupac's poetry vs. a 6th grader's and see who can tell the difference. )

I'll think of more.

Edited: Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's worthless. All Eyez On Me was a great album. So was Strictly 4 My Nz but damn, a lot of the stuff after that really makes his good stuff lose it's appeal.

[Non_Comformist]

Those are good reasons, I am now starting to hate him. WTF am I going to do with his CD's?

[B Dids]

His first few records were excellent. Once he got himself enslaved by Shug, the quality of his records dropped a lot. He was just churning out factory line music.

Also- the fact that he built this entire persona around his thug image, and wasn't a thug at all is bothersome. Not atypical in hip-hop in the least, but it got old when after his death everybody pointed to it as some logical conclusion of his "thug life".

I don't hate him by any means, but I think that he often rates FAR too high in people's lists of top MCs.

[ThaSaltCracka]

1) I disagree with this one completely. Maybe you should look back at his whole collection before you say this. Some of the songs on Me Against the World and Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. are deep man. I don't think his problem was lyrical content, IMO.
2.) I agree with you. His style was very one dimensional. He always rapped with the same tempo, def agree with this.
3.) I disagree, his mom was dirt poor and he had to move several times in his life. His mom was a smart, but very militant woman. The private school you are talking about is in Baltimore, and he didn't even go there for a year. He moved to Oakland after that to one of the roughest neighborhoods. I think he did a lot to try to rise above the "Thug Life", but ultimately because of his emerging relationship with Death Row and Suge he was emersed in the lifestyle and embraced his new image. Death Row was the ruin of him.
4.)This is possible, but I don't think anyone knows the whole truth to this story, sorry to say.
5.) This is absurd

[Tupac_Shakur]

Anybody who doesnt like 2Pac is a moron plain and simple.

[BusterStacks]

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1) I disagree with this one completely. Maybe you should look back at his whole collection before you say this. Some of the songs on Me Against the World and Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. are deep man. I don't think his problem was lyrical content, IMO.
2.) I agree with you. His style was very one dimensional. He always rapped with the same tempo, def agree with this.
3.) I disagree, his mom was dirt poor and he had to move several times in his life. His mom was a smart, but very militant woman. The private school you are talking about is in Baltimore, and he didn't even go there for a year. He moved to Oakland after that to one of the roughest neighborhoods. I think he did a lot to try to rise above the "Thug Life", but ultimately because of his emerging relationship with Death Row and Suge he was emersed in the lifestyle and embraced his new image. Death Row was the ruin of him.
4.)This is possible, but I don't think anyone knows the whole truth to this story, sorry to say.
5.) This is absurd

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Well dude, I respect your opinion and don't have any witty comeback so I guess we'll leave it at that. You asked for reasons and I gave you them, are you trying to convince me that he is tight after all? I dunno. good game.

[daryn]

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Is he a rapper or something? Rap sucks.

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ding

[ThaSaltCracka]

I was just surprised at how many people dislike him. I am one of the few people I know that thinks he is overated, so I wasn't surprised people said that. I just completely disagree with people that think he sucks.

[wacki]

If you watch Tupac documentary, you will realize that he is not at all a weak person. He had a lot of very rough experiences as a child. He was shot 5 times, two of which were in the head and still demanded to light up a blunt. If you don't think that is hard, or crazy, I don't know what is. I will agree with anyone that says that is stupid, but you can not tell me he is weak.

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3) NOT REALLY A THUG

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Tupac has consistently admitted this in interviews and on national TV. He even admits that in some of his lyrics. BTW, if you think all of his songs are Tupac singing about Tupac, you are sorely mistaken. Just because a song he sings is in the first person, doesn't mean he is singing about himself. A lot of his songs are simply telling a story (from a different persons point of view) or sending a message.

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2) His style is repetative ( probably half of his songs are in the same tempo and cadence)

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50% of his songs are the same tempo and cadence? So what? 50% is better than the most of the other rap artists. Atleast he isn't turning theme songs like night rider into hits.

[kyro]

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Those of you that hate him please explain why.

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he's not dead yet.

hmm, that was wrong in several ways...

[daryn]

it's mostly wrong because it's incorrect though

[kyro]

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it's mostly wrong because it's incorrect though

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thanks

[Rounder041]

Im with you on this one. Ugh, how can peopleven consider not showing him respect, cmon.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

was tupac overrated? sure he was? but does he "suck" ? absolutely not. it is a damn shame that he was stuck with death row at the end cuz he woulda turned out much greater things on his own.

[WDC]

Can't remember exactly who I am plagerizing from but
does anyone else thinks its funny that Tupac spelled backwards is caput.

[nicky g]

I don;t hate Tupac. He was a talented rapper. But I really really don;t like any of the beats on his songs. THey all sound a bit like background music on a cheap porn film; cheesy and synthetic.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Im with you on this one. Ugh, how can peopleven consider not showing him respect, cmon.

[/ QUOTE ]Only two of the Tupac "Haters" /images/graemlins/wink.gif, responded in this thread(Thank you btw), but I agree with you.

I think he was severely overated, but he was still one of the best.