09-05-2001, 02:35 PM
mid level in a limit tournament. four tables left with two tables payed (although 18-10 get a net $5). early mid position player open raises. Folded around to me in the small blind. I wake up with red AA. I was about to three bet, but I smooth called. Big blind was pretty low on chips, and I figured that he would either call or not. my three betting wouldn't have made a difference in his decision.
Anyway, I had pulled a move on the raiser a few hands ago, so I figured that a check-raise on the flop or turn would look like a move, and he'd call me down with little if I played this way here. My plan went down the drain (in a good way) when the flop came: A-rag-rag rainbow.
I check called the flop, and check called the turn when another rag turned (although it put a second club on board to match the A clubs on the flop).
Here's my thinking. The raiser was in early position, so what would he have raised with pre-flop that he could call with if I raised here? I figured AK (4) -AQ(4) plus pocket pairs KK-TT (24) If I raised, I'd get called (turn and river) one time in 4, but, if I called, he'd bet into me 4 times in 4. If I raised, I'd get 1/2 more bets each time, but if I called, I'd get 1.25 bets (call on the river with an ace and discounting the chance that he makes a set on the river) each time. Call it is.
river is a ten of clubs. I checked, he bet, and I called and took it down.
My read was off. he had raised with A-10 off and made top two on the river. had I raised, I could have made another bet. So now, I have to re figure my numbers to include A-10 as a possible raising hand. my head hurts too much to do that now, so I'll just ask:
I know that my read was off, but was my thinking process correct? My read was based on limited prior play, so I'm not too worried about that. However, I am concerned about whether I should have raised somewhere given what I assumed.
As a side benefit, not to be discounted as a factor, my calls were given more respect until the table broke and I was able to make a move or two in the subsequent hands.
Anyway, I had pulled a move on the raiser a few hands ago, so I figured that a check-raise on the flop or turn would look like a move, and he'd call me down with little if I played this way here. My plan went down the drain (in a good way) when the flop came: A-rag-rag rainbow.
I check called the flop, and check called the turn when another rag turned (although it put a second club on board to match the A clubs on the flop).
Here's my thinking. The raiser was in early position, so what would he have raised with pre-flop that he could call with if I raised here? I figured AK (4) -AQ(4) plus pocket pairs KK-TT (24) If I raised, I'd get called (turn and river) one time in 4, but, if I called, he'd bet into me 4 times in 4. If I raised, I'd get 1/2 more bets each time, but if I called, I'd get 1.25 bets (call on the river with an ace and discounting the chance that he makes a set on the river) each time. Call it is.
river is a ten of clubs. I checked, he bet, and I called and took it down.
My read was off. he had raised with A-10 off and made top two on the river. had I raised, I could have made another bet. So now, I have to re figure my numbers to include A-10 as a possible raising hand. my head hurts too much to do that now, so I'll just ask:
I know that my read was off, but was my thinking process correct? My read was based on limited prior play, so I'm not too worried about that. However, I am concerned about whether I should have raised somewhere given what I assumed.
As a side benefit, not to be discounted as a factor, my calls were given more respect until the table broke and I was able to make a move or two in the subsequent hands.