For those who tired from SH

[Peter_rus]

As you maybe know im actually play 15/30 full 4-tabling. It's a good game and i have now somewhat decent amount of hands with good results. I once posted stats in mid- high- forum but that time i had only 17K in my database so numbers were not much certain now i have 50K in my database. Of course i don't expect numbers to be higher in a long run and maintaining around 3BB/100 4-tabling is what i will be happy of. Actually i was greatly surprised that full games can offer such good winrate. I thought earlier 1.7-2.2 is a range of very cool players.

Also notice that im not left the table when it gets SH and people play very bad usually (except those who seeking especially for SH-game on a full tables). So stats are not filtered and there is around 38K of 7 and more players and 12K from 2 to 6 players. Im greatly recomend this game for shots or maybe for routine play for anyone. If you do well SH you will certainly do well here.

Total hands 50470
3.54 BB/100

Vpip 25.11%
VpipSB 56.74%
PFR 13.62%
SFALL 27.17%
SFNB 14.96%
limp/call reraise PF 0%
cold call PF 0.46%
limp with callers 4.77%
FSB to steal 73.06%
FBB to steal 44.39%
Att steal 33.67%
w$wsf 39.94%
wsd 36.39%
w$sd 51.25%

agression

PF 0.97
flop 2.82
turn 2.77
river 2.15

fold to river bet 41.20%

Limping first is also restricted for me in full tables:)

[Dark Force Rising]

Previet Peter!

I will be in MOCKBA next summer or fall.Where is the best poker-Casino Cosmos?How about Blackjack?Much heat for counters?Also,I have a Ukrainian friend who desperately needs poker books written in Russian.Any ideas?

Bolshoi Spacebo,
Dan

[Mr. Graff]

Pretty neat win rate for the level you play /images/graemlins/cool.gif

I noticed your FSB to steal (73.06%) and FBB to steal (44.39%) are very low compared to most posters. What is your BB won/hand in those positions?

[Peter_rus]

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Where is the best poker-Casino Cosmos?

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Better play in Corona. Though you will not find any limit texas anywhere. People play half-pot, pot, and no limit. And texas isn't the most popular game in cash games.

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How about Blackjack?

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The best Blackjack is in Crystall and Golden Palace. It's includes ESD-any, DOA,DAS, and some special things which is called triple which allow you to get one more card after your double paying one more bet. As well when your bet is 25 - they give back you 13 when you surrender, if 51 - than 26 etc. With proper basic strategy it allow you to reach +0.8% without counting. So if you play such stakes with bet 25 it give you addition +0.3%. Though you will not find any 1-deck or 2-deck games - only 6-decks, so counting makes not so much as i know you can reach in states.

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Much heat for counters?

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Some of them would blacklist you immediately find you're spreading correctly, some of them able to push you when you win much etc... I don't think it's really important for you as i think you don't plan to live in Moscow constantly /images/graemlins/smile.gif


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Also,I have a Ukrainian friend who desperately needs poker books written in Russian.Any ideas?

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In Cosmos - find Dmitriy Lesnoi - he selling some translated famous books about poker.

[Peter_rus]

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I noticed your FSB to steal (73.06%) and FBB to steal (44.39%) are very low compared to most posters. What is your BB won/hand in those positions?

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This is because of blinds structure. Actually i think i sucked more in blinds than i should. Results are -0.13 for BB and -0.09 for SB. Comparing to SH 10/20 my numbers were -0.12 and -0.04.

[Dark Force Rising]

Cool.Thanks,man.Played BJ at Casino Budapest in Kiev summer 2001.They had early surrender,too,but I think the European no hole rule brings the automatic advantage down to about break even with basic strategy.Deeply dealt game,though.It was fun watching the pit bosses sweat a dumb American beating their game.

[fnord_too]

I have also been playing in these games lately. I have not had the success that peter has, but I attribute this to two things:

1. Bad luck - I have been on the short end of a (slightly) disproportionately high number of bad situations. (Set over set, Overpair vs. Overpair, etc. type situations).

2. Bad play - I honestly think I am giving up 2BB/100 through poor play.

I am still winning, close to 2BB/100 even with my horid November (whos rate is now probably about .6BB/100). I think 3BB/100 is sustainable by good to very good players, and more by those inhuman freaks who just don't make mistakes.

The games get shorthanded a lot, which I like since I have a better idea of what to do in those situations. Definitely a nice change of pace. I am going to be playing more SH soon, and I dfinitely think haveing the full game perspective will help my SH game, and vice versa.

[Peter_rus]

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They had early surrender,too,but I think the European no hole rule brings the automatic advantage down to about break even with basic strategy.

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Yep but it's pretty thin. Around +0.2%. So if you like to catch your +ev by eating and drinking for free or maybe catching some hanging around chicks then it's the way to do, but if you want to make some money - you must count and spreading 1-10 at minimum.

[ChicagoTroy]

Peter,

It appears you never limp/reraise preflop. Why is that?

[Peter_rus]

Cause i don't actually see the reason to do it. I raise much for full games and really don't think i need to mix up my play cause anyway not much people can read me good. Maybe my aces and kings loose some profitability when they getting just blinds but my 77 and 88 (which i also raise UTG) get extra points when i attack with them for example.

[sthief09]

you must be a hell of a postflop player, because your VP$IP is REALLY high, and you cold call a lot preflop. it's possible you're running well over the 50k hands but you're clearly beating the game. I'd say don't mess with success but if you hit a bad run, it wouldn't be a bad idea to tighten up significantly. I'm sure some of that is due to the 2/3 blind structure, but I don't think it should be much higher than 20

[bdk3clash]

Note that almost 1/4 of his hands have between 2 and 6 players, so his VPIP is skewed higher than it would be for full games for the 50,000 hand sample size.

Nevertheless, it sure looks like Peter_rus is absolutely killing the games. Congratulations, very cool.

[Peter_rus]

My filtered Vpip between 7 and 10 players on a table is 21.23 with PFR of 11.22.

[Peter_rus]

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and you cold call a lot preflop

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Really? What are the good numbers? Zero? I find myself cold calling with borderline hands like AQo,AJs,88-99 against early but not way tight raises (KTs,A8s,77,AJo for example).

As well as adding some more margin suited hands or lower pairs after one or two cold callers ahead of me.

Those 219 times of my cold calls give me +0.42BB/hand, but maybe i'm able to get more by 3-betting them, what do you think?

[MAxx]

i don't know if cold calling 219 out of 50k hands is a lot (i would guess not a crazy amount really, if anything at all only very slightly too much, but this is a guess).

I am interested why you would would choose to cold call an AQo instead of three betting a loose raiser. Were there other cold callers? I tend to 3bet this or fold (talking about my 2/4, 3/6, and 5/10 fullhanded experiences). Care to post one of those hands?

[Joe826]

hey peter,

looks good. i'm just curious though, why are the FSB to steal and FBB to steal numbers so different? since the blind structure is 10/15 it seems like these should be closer together.

[Peter_rus]

If SB folded i defend BB a bit more than in 5/10 game for exampe. But when i call in SB i don't know if BB folds and also i need to put more amount to pot and my odds are worse.

Also there are many hands i defend in BB just because i know exactly that it will be HU like J8o or A2o but i don't want ever BB calls behind me when i call such hand in SB and i don't want to 3-bet such [censored] as well so the only option is fold.

About odds. Button raises first in - in the BB i get immediate odds 1:3.66 .

Button raises and im pretty sure BB would fold if i call. I get immediate odds less than 1:2.75. I guess it's decent difference.

[Peter_rus]

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I am interested why you would would choose to cold call an AQo instead of three betting a loose raiser.

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Cause he is usually not loose enough to make me +ev. And i feel that i'm a bit behind like 45:55 underdog for eg. So i don't want to get it HU and pretty don't want to give him option to cap. But i know when 1 or 2 callers come in game it will be looks like: UTG 39% Im 35% and the caller 26%, so i get a bit of +ev and can fold overcards if they don't hit (or pairs on a scary flop) safely. While when it's HU i can't fold overcards cause you can't wait for a pair HU as it goes only 32% of time. So i must be sure to 3-bet that im ahead of the most cards he openraises.

Some AJs Examples:

1.
UTG raises, 1 cold call, and i cold call in the button with AJs, BB calls

Flop is 55Q-rainbow. All checks.
Turn is J. Checked to me and i bet. 2 calls
River is blank. I bet - all folded.

2. UTG raises, i cold call, the rest folded.

Flop is AQ5. UTG bets - i call.
Turn is 8. UTG bets - i call.
River is Q. UTG bets - i call to loose to AQ and rivered full house.

3. UTG raises and i cold call in MP, Button calls, BB calls

Flop is 89K, K9 of my suit.
UTG bets, I call, button calls, BB folds

Turn is T not completing my flush.
UTG bets, I call, button calls.

River is 2 of my suit.

UTG checks, I bet, Button called and UTG called. Button shows KTo, UTG shows 89o

4. Mp limps, mp1 raises, i cold call in Button, SB calls, BB calls

Flop is monotone 268 not of my suit. Mp bets, mp1 calls, i fold as the others. MP's get to SD to split their KQ both with 1 card of flop suit.