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Mano
11-15-2004, 03:16 PM
Since college football does not have a playoff system, it looks like there will once again be contreversy over who plays in the national championship game. Assuming Auburn, USC and Oklahoma all win out, who do you think should play in it? For selfish reasons, I am hoping that it is Auburn vs. USC .

M2d
11-15-2004, 03:23 PM
Utah-Boise St.

jakethebake
11-15-2004, 03:32 PM
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Utah-Boise St.

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NoPeak
11-15-2004, 03:32 PM
I would agree, Auburn v. USC as long as they both win out.

CWsports
11-15-2004, 03:46 PM
Auburn vs. OK...USC has a week strength of schedule whereas the Big 12 and ACC have the toughest conferences

Number4
11-15-2004, 03:51 PM
Auburn-USC.

beta1607
11-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Auburn V. Oklahoma and its not even close. Auburn is by far the most accomplished team in the country beating more top teams then any other school and as much as I hate to say it the PAC 10 conference is a joke these days for football. I am still holding out hope that my UCLA Bruins beat USC on December 4th shattering the Trojans hope for a national title, that would make my Christmas extra sweet!

Sincere
11-16-2004, 01:06 AM
Auburn and Oklahoma are the 2 best teams. USC plays in a weakass conference. Auburn and Oklahoma play in tough conferences and have handily beaten top teams time and time again.

Clarkmeister
11-16-2004, 02:01 AM
The Big 12 is consistently the most overrated conference in the NCAA.

USC had the best team each of the last two seasons and only has a half a title to show for it.

Any undefeated SEC team should ALWAYS be in the title game, witness underdog winners LSU, Tennessee and Alabama in the last decade. The SEC is hands down THE premier football conference.

I vote USC vs Auburn.

DontRaisePlz
11-16-2004, 02:24 AM
Cal is a top-5 team with an unstoppable offense and a rare defense that creates pressure without a blitz. They could beat Oklahoma in any given game and they would obliterate Texas. ASU could probably beat Texas if they had a good first half and forced them to stray from the run.

The Pac-10 constantly has this "we don't play defense" reputation but I see the whole Big 12 South surrending 30+ points at will and we know how awful the Big 12 North is.

The SEC isn't exactly that great either, but they do have a ton of top-25ish teams that can give you a run for your money. Auburn and SC, without a doubt. Anyone who picks Oklahoma because of their conference has watched very little football this year.

M2d
11-16-2004, 02:30 AM
Hey, I'm a WAC guy at heart

Sincere
11-16-2004, 02:36 AM
The only decent teams USC has beat this year is VT and Cal.

Anybody who thinks beating Colorodo State, BYU, Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, and Arizona is respectable doesnt know very much about football.

And dont give me that, well, they beat Cal crap. Cal sucks as s, the've played one top 10 team and lost. The rest of there schedule is: Air Force, New Mexico State, Oregon State, UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Oregon and Washington.

The Pac 10 is nothing but a bunch of beefed up high school teams. I'd like to see USC play in the SEC or ACC.

DontRaisePlz
11-16-2004, 02:45 AM
Please tell me how Cal and ASU are different from Texas and Texas A&M?

Texas almost lost to KANSAS! They are a perenial joke and no one in the top-10 takes them seriously. Whether it is their shaky quarterback situations or their lack of a balanced attack, Mack Brown has never yielded a team without a huge glaring weakness, a glaring weakness that any decent coach can exploit. They are jokes and NOBODY EVER PICKS THEM in the RRSO. Hell, I don't even trust them to go through a year without losing to a team ranked 10 spots below them.

Texas A&M lost to BAYLOR!

Enough with the weak BS rhetoric. Almost every team looks awful when you quickly skim through their schedule. What can CAL or USC do? Either one of them loses, you will say the same thing! That they only played one top-10 opponent and lost! Why even bother arguing?

Not that a weak SOS ever hurt the perception of USC's strength. Didn't they kick the teeth out of a Michigan team last year?

DontRaisePlz
11-16-2004, 02:47 AM
Note, I'm not doubting Auburn's credibility. What you seem to be ignoring is the strength of the Big-12. I don't not have an issue with the ACC or the SEC.

Sincere
11-16-2004, 02:53 AM
I never said anything about A&M.

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Didn't they kick the teeth out of a Michigan team last year?

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So what they beat another over-rated big ten team.

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Either one of them loses, you will say the same thing! That they only played one top-10 opponent and lost! Why even bother arguing?


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The point of the arguement is that instead of playing 1 top ten team a year and a bunch of high school teams, they could try playing 4 or 5 top 20 teams and 1 or 2 more top 30 teams.

What is more respectable? A team that plays a schedule where they only have 1 game with any chance of losing or a team that plays a schedule where they have 5+ chances of losing?

Now that SOS was taken out of the BSC equation its only gonna get worse. Teams will be going undefeated off of 106 ranked schedules.

Sincere
11-16-2004, 02:56 AM
The Big 12 is weaker than normal this year Im not denying that, however my argument is that the Pac 10 is weak EVERY year.

DontRaisePlz
11-16-2004, 03:00 AM
You picked Oklahoma in the OB.

Yet I see no reason as how to the crappy Big-12 in maybe it's biggest down year (all their "great" scrambling QBs are sucking wastewater) is superior to the Pac-10.

Arizona State and Oregon State are hardly "high school" teams. They aren't great but ASU is better than Florida and Oregon State is an on and off team with great potential that can give anyone a run on a good week, even if they do flat out stink in another week. Weren't they a few 19 yard kicks away from beating your beloved SEC's top-15 LSU?

That SOS remark is incredibly ignorant. It was redundant to have that in that in the first place since all the computer formulas account for it in some manner or another. Anyhow, Auburn's SOS is ranked below USC, not that the matters, as you will quickly type out Pac-10 teams again to make your point again. Maybe if Auburn wanted to be #1, they would pick a better OOC team to play than the Citidel. SC played a practical road game vs. a team dying to make their mark in the first game of the year.

goofball
11-16-2004, 03:58 AM
Auburn and USC

NoPeak
11-16-2004, 11:07 AM
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Any undefeated SEC team should ALWAYS be in the title game, witness underdog winners LSU, Tennessee and Alabama in the last decade. The SEC is hands down THE premier football conference.

I vote USC vs Auburn.

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Only if the people who's opinion counts would realize this!

Sincere
11-17-2004, 12:51 AM
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Weren't they a few 19 yard kicks away from beating your beloved SEC's top-15 LSU?


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I dont know where you get that from, Im not an LSU fan.

No way is USCs SOS tougher than Auburns. As for Auburns OOC games, why should they have to when they have to play in the SEC?