a turn raise

[joker122]

sb is a tag:
{{TOT HANDS: 88 - VP$IP: 17 - PFR: 13
WSD: 30 - FSB: 100 - FBB: 100
ASB: 30 - AF-TOT: 2.0 - AF-F: 2.2
AF-T: 7.0 - AF-R: 1.5}}


utg posts 1SB, folded to me OTB with JTo. i raise, blinds and utg call.

flop: 944r

checked to me, i bet, sb raises, bb and utg fold. i call.

turn is K, completing the rainbow.

he bets and i raise.

[jrobb83]

I've been putting the turn semi-bluff raise to work a bit against tight players, and I think I like it. This seems like a pretty good spot for it. You have a guy who is very tight for 6max, and that is exactly how you would play overs that spiked a K.

[joker122]

yeah, i also knew he wouldn't play a 4 like this.

[DrGutshot]

I like it - I need to incorporate these plays more often against known TAGs...

-DrG

[Peter_rus]

TAG's are really aware 'bout such moves from thinking players and tend to call down turn raises more often.

[jfresh]

I don't really think you can convince anyone with a 9 (assuming TAG has that or a pocket pair) that you have a king. You raised when everyone folded to you OTB; that could easily look like a positional raise (which it was), not necessairy AK or KQ or anything with a K in it.

Furthermore, since he bet out again when the K hit, I don't think he is extremely concerned you have a king. At least not enough to fold it when you raise and bet the river. IMHO.

I'm a wimp at making these kind of huge turn bluffs, so maybe i'm wrong. i just don't think this is the optimal situation for it.

[joker122]

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I'm a wimp at making these kind of huge turn bluffs, so maybe i'm wrong. i just don't think this is the optimal situation for it.

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note that this is not a pure bluff. i have 10 outs against a nine or an underpair.

[Scotch78]

The SB is a very tight player who might not be defending his blinds enough. I'd be surprised if he has A9, and even more so for K9. That means he has to hold 55-88 for you to have enough outs to make this semi-bluff profitable. With only 88 hands to go by, it's hard to say, but I don't think you have all ten outs often enough to make this move.

Scott

[joker122]

He folded.

[J.R.]

"but I don't think you have all ten outs often enough to make this move."

His outs don't matter if his opponent folds. Tight players fold more than others. Your range of hands is too narrow.

[Scotch78]

Do you think he got the villain to fold a made hand, or more likely that the villain was trying to make a move on the rag flop?

Scott

[jrobb83]

Do you have another go at the river if he calls and checks to you? (assuming you don't improve)

[joker122]

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Do you have another go at the river if he calls and checks to you? (assuming you don't improve)


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No. If he calls the turn he's figured out what I'm doing and is planning on showing down.

[J.R.]

A dose of either- this opponent seems aggressive postflop and the check-raise is consistent (but the pot was 4 handed- utg post, blinds and hero, so a move is kinda discounted), but OTOH hero's line seems consistent with decent K or a big pair and the flop chekc-raise says "I have a vulnerable hand that is trying to shut out the field". More likely a weak pair.

[joker122]

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villain was trying to make a move on the rag flop?

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HU, maybe. Probably, even. But with 2 players in between him and I? Very unlikely.