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phrosty
11-14-2004, 07:11 PM
i'm sure you will say this is read dependant-but i'd like some thoughts on this

PokerStars Game #857772575: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2004/11/14 -
16:36:11 (ET)
Table 'Helenos' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Rowdy Ruckus ($40.35 in chips)
Seat 2: TaTa Cee ($14.75 in chips)
Seat 3: badda bing ($46.35 in chips)
Seat 4: miked719 ($11.15 in chips)
Seat 5: englishbully ($18.30 in chips)
Seat 7: phrosty ($44 in chips)
Seat 8: ilive2callu ($15.15 in chips)
miked719: posts small blind $0.25
englishbully: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to phrosty [As Qh]
phrosty: calls $0.50
MarkusB leaves the table
ilive2callu: folds
Rowdy Ruckus: calls $0.50
TaTa Cee: folds
badda bing: calls $0.50
miked719: folds
englishbully: checks
*** FLOP *** [Td 7h Qc]
englishbully: bets $1
phrosty: calls $1
Rowdy Ruckus: raises $4 to $5
badda bing: folds
englishbully: folds
phrosty: calls $4
*** TURN *** [Td 7h Qc] [Ah]
phrosty: checks
Rowdy Ruckus: bets $12
phrosty: raises $26.50 to $38.50 and is all-in
Gimmedough joins the table at seat #6
Rowdy Ruckus: calls $22.85 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Td 7h Qc Ah] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
phrosty: shows [As Qh] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Rowdy Ruckus: shows [7s 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
Rowdy Ruckus collected $79.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $82.95 | Rake $3
Board [Td 7h Qc Ah 2s]
Seat 1: Rowdy Ruckus showed [7s 7c] and won ($79.95) with three of a kind,
Sevens
Seat 2: TaTa Cee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: badda bing (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: miked719 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: englishbully (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: phrosty showed [As Qh] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 8: ilive2callu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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beta1607
11-14-2004, 07:24 PM
I would have raised preflop although some may disagree given your position. The flop play is fine, but I really dont like the rereaise on the turn. You showed strength on the flop and he still led into you. Its easy to over play TPTK kinds of hands but pushing the turn is a huge mistake, that play will make KQ QJ type hands fold and you will only get called by hands that dominate you, in this case a set.

Biff M.
11-14-2004, 08:11 PM
If you raise preflop, and he calls, and you make a decent bet on the flop, and he calls/raises, you gotta suspect that you're behind. As it stands now you have absolutely no idea what he has after the flop. Limped with QT and got top two pair? 89/J9/KJ and OE straight-draw? If he had KJ he made his nut straight on the turn.

Hard to get away from this hand as it turned out, but if you had raised the bet on the flop, and he re-raised you, you might be able to drop it. The weak tight me would definitely assume I was behind if he re-raised the flop.

phrosty
11-14-2004, 08:53 PM
i agree, a preflop raise could have limited the range of hands for me. I tend to limp with AQ and occasionally raise with it. I'm thinking my worst mistake was just calling the $1 raise, if i reraise to 5 and then get reraised i think i could call and have more options on the turn. With the weak flop bet he could have been trying to take it away with anything (as you pointed out) and the all in reraise was definately a mistake as i only get called by hands that beat me. Thanks for the input