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Scotch78
11-13-2004, 12:53 AM
The game's Party 1/2 6max

10,163 Hands

VP$IP: 15.90% (Strip's the uluru; I really am running that cold)
VP$SB: 25.94%
FSB: 90.55%
FBB: 71.79%
ASB: 20.23%
W$WSF: 30.69%
BB/100: 0.90
WSD: 29.45%
W$SD: 58.57%
PFR: 10.59%
AF-F: 4.10
AF-T: 2.90
AF-R: 2.00
W$SD-BR: 82.14%
W$SD-CR: 34.34%
Check-Raise: 0.72% (No clue why this one is so low)

BB/Hand (by position)

SB: (0.09)
BB: (0.18)
UTG: 0.13
MP: 0.10
CO: 0.10
BTN: 0.08

Scott

WackityWhiz
11-13-2004, 02:46 AM
I have about the same number of hands, but mine come from 1/2 (3564 hands) , 2/4 (2371 hands) , 3/6 (2724 hands) , 5/10 (1939 hands)

10,598 Hands

VP$IP: 34.70
VP$SB: 52.72
FSB: 66.82
FBB: 48.61
ASB: 22.32
W$WSF: 37.17
BB/100: 4.56
WSD: 35.75
W$SD: 55.15
PFR: 14.39
AF-F: 1.74
AF-T: 1.36
AF-R: 1.55
Check-Raise: 0.85%

BB/Hand (by position)

SB: (0.05)
BB: (0.07)
UTG: 0.08
MP: 0.02
CO: 0.19
BTN: 0.20

Definately some major differences... but i would say that i am running extremely well. My 5/10 stats brought down my overall stats because of a few bad days. This is definately not a post where I am trying to brag, I just love pokertracker and I love comparing stats with people. I feel that it is beneficial for all.

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 02:59 AM
I'm not the best at analyzing stats, but your aggression numbers are definitely too low.

Scott

Nikla
11-13-2004, 03:23 AM
Ill throw mine in here aswell.

5-10: 190 hands

10-20: 32961 hands

15-30: 4745 hands

Total hands: 37,896

VP$IP: 33,58
VP$SB: 46.46
FSB: 82.20
FBB: 46.95
ASB: 46.96
W$WSF: 42.06
BB/100: 5.04
PFR: 22.57
AF-F: 2.70
AF-T: 2.67
AF-R: 1.85
Check-Raise: 2.18

Bb/Hand (by position)

SB: (0.03)
BB: (0.06)
UTG: 0.17
MP: 0.10
CO: 0.11
BTN: 0.17

2500 hands have been headsup which explains the BB/hand in the blinds.

All the best,
-Nikla

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 03:28 AM
Unless you're getting the cards I'm missing, your VP$IP is too high, now would someone comment on my stats please? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Scott

Nikla
11-13-2004, 03:31 AM
I would say your VP$IP is way too low.

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 03:32 AM
Gee, thanks. Maybe you should just keep quiet until Naphand and I get going, you'll fit in much better there /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif
Scott

Nikla
11-13-2004, 03:37 AM
Ok here's what I think:

Your VPIP is too low because:

1. You dont try to steal enough blinds, nor do you raise enough preflop all together.

2. You defend way too little in the big blind.

This could ofcourse all be due to a horrible run of cards, 10k is not alot to judge from. Neither is 40k for that matter.

WackityWhiz
11-13-2004, 03:43 AM
ya, i agree that your vpip is too low... I would like to know how many times you have had AA, AKo, AKs, KK, QQ, JJ and your BB/hand for all. These are the hands that are the big money makers and have a big impact on your BB/100

AA 40 times (2.4 BB/hand)
AKs 28 times (1.32 BB/hand)
AKo 107 times (1.24 BB/hand)
KK 54 times (3.70 BB/hand) this blows my mind lol 92% win with KK lol
QQ 42 times (1.28 BB/hand)
JJ 49 times (2.10 BB/hand)

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 04:06 AM
As I said in the original post, and why I took your first comment as sarcasm, I am running VERY cold. I am a 20%er normally. My blinds play does need work though.

Scott

WackityWhiz
11-13-2004, 04:09 AM
i still would like to know how many times you had each of the hands i asked for, and the BB/hand. Thanks

spydog
11-13-2004, 04:26 AM
1) Your blind defense is too tight. I'd like to see your FSB at 75-80%, FBB at 55-60%.

2) You don't attempt to steal the blinds enough. Loosen up in the CO and on the button. Your ASB should be around 30%.

3) It looks like you give up too easily if you aren't hitting your flops. My WSD usually hovers around 39%, while yours is only 29.45%. You are folding too many winning hands because you are afraid to take a loser to SD. This is why your W$SD is so high. Mine is lower, about 53%. Don't be afraid to take 2nd or 3rd pair to SD against the right opponents.

4) Your CR is at .72% because you don't defend enough in the blinds. When you play more hands out of the blinds, you have many more check-raising opportunities on the flop.

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 04:35 AM
A perfect deal would've included 46 of each PP, 123 of the unsuited broadways, and 31 of the suited broadways. The number for each is the difference between projected and actual. As you can see, I am missing a very large portion of the more profitable hands.

AA: +1
AKs: -9
AK: -17
AQs: -6
AQ: -37
AJs: -3
AJ: -36
ATs: +6
AT: -31
A9s: +3
A9: -26
KK: +3
KQs: +10
KQ: -43
KJs: -9
KJ: -32
KTs: +5
KT: -30
QQ: --
QJs: +2
QJ: -9
JJ: --
JTs: -11
TT: -10
99: -2

Scott

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 04:37 AM
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3) It looks like you give up too easily if you aren't hitting your flops.

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My when folded numbers are F-9.44%, T-4.28% and R-2.09%. What do yours look like?

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4) Your CR is at .72% because you don't defend enough in the blinds. When you play more hands out of the blinds, you have many more check-raising opportunities on the flop.

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Very interesting, I never would've thought of that.

Scott

wahooriver
11-13-2004, 04:55 AM
I'm most astonished by your win rate on the button. While I only have 5000 hands at Empire/Party, my stats run similar on other shorthanded sites.

My win rate is very much higher on the button than any other position. My VP$IP is also much higher there.

Position

Button 32.7% .23
1 26.3% .01
2 25.7% .10
3 24.7% .11
BB 15.3% (.02)
SB 41.2% .04

I believe that you do need to loosen up in the shorthanded game - especially when in position. You can steal a lot of missed flops on the button - as long as you know the players and the situations.

spydog
11-13-2004, 04:59 AM
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My when folded numbers are F-9.44%, T-4.28% and R-2.09%. What do yours look like?

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At 1/2, they were F-7.87%, T-3.56% and R-2.19%

I also checked my FSB and it was 90%, which is about the same as yours. This seemed very high to me. The Party game was so passive that respect had to be paid with a raise. Maybe a better stat is VPIP from SB. Mine was 31%. I'm curious as to what yours is?

My position stats for the blinds were: BB -.03, SB -.07

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 05:07 AM
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Maybe a better stat is VPIP from SB. Mine was 31%. I'm curious as to what yours is?


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25.94%

Scott

spydog
11-13-2004, 05:14 AM
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25.94%

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It sounds like you need to complete more often.

With an anticipated 4 player flop, I would complete with these:

85s+
64s+
43s+
T9o+
QTo+
Kxs+
Axs+
Q7s+
J8s+
A8o+
K9o+
22+

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 05:16 AM
Thanks for the list. Right now, I'm not completing in that scenario with a lot of those.

Scott

spydog
11-13-2004, 05:21 AM
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Thanks for the list. Right now, I'm not completing in that scenario with a lot of those.

Scott

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Keep in mind that the list was assuming there are 4 players to the flop. If it's only 3, I'm less liberal about suited connectors and more liberal about K and A hands.

If it's 5 or 6 players, I'm less liberal about the K and A hands, and more liberal with suited hands.

You probably already know this, but some players might take this list and not make the necessary adjustments.

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 05:25 AM
Yeah, it'd be a major problem if I didn't to adjust like that /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Scott

ChessMan
11-13-2004, 05:29 AM
If there are 169 starting hands, then 1/169 is the probability of getting a particular pocket pair, such as AA. 1/169*10,000 is 59. You would expect 59 of each pocket pair, not 46.

I'm pretty sure I read that 169 is the number, and I think I actually calculated it while waiting for the bus one day. Let me know if I'm wrong on that. I'm too tired to calculate it again.

stripsqueez
11-13-2004, 05:32 AM
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VP$IP: 33,58 W$WSF: 42.06

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wow - over that many hands these figures are enormous

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 05:39 AM
It is, but each hand is not equally likely.

Scott

stripsqueez
11-13-2004, 05:50 AM
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VP$IP: 15.90% (Strip's the uluru; I really am running that cold)

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i go around at something like 24%

i will predictably say that you should play a few more hands and defend the blinds a bit more

because you need to show down the winner more in the 1/2 game i figure its right to play a bit tighter and fold a bit quicker than in the 10/20 game - so i think that in many respects your stats reflect a good approach to that game - but - i think your optimal W$WSF should be higher given your VP$IP - ie you give up too much

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

naphand
11-13-2004, 05:57 AM
There are 169 different hand types, such as 74o, 74s and 77. This does not mean they occur in the same numbers: 77 can be achieved 6 ways, 74s 4 ways and 74o 12 ways.

naphand
11-13-2004, 06:00 AM
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Scotch78
11-13-2004, 06:23 AM
If you limit yourself to such simple responses, I'll soon be the biggest jerk in HUSH. Not that I mind holding the honors, but I expected more competition from you.

Scott

J.R.
11-13-2004, 06:27 AM
1326 is your number (http://www.gocee.com/poker/HE_Hands.htm#two%20down)

each pair shows up every 220 hands.

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 06:31 AM
Booo!! I caught that one before you deleted it.

Scott

naphand
11-13-2004, 06:43 AM
Timing is everything. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Scotch78
11-13-2004, 06:59 AM
Props to you for anticipating my response to such an unoriginal post and adjusting, but just remember that you won't get that second chance when we finally meet at a poker table /images/graemlins/cool.gif.

Scott

ChessMan
11-14-2004, 02:19 AM
Thanks for that link. I took a course in combinatorial mathematics. I'm really surprised at how quickly you forget these things. I believe I got an A too. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif