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TripleH68

11-11-2004, 12:33 PM

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

BB in this hand is a solid player. Is aggressive and does not seem to make mistakes post-flop. I put him on a premium holding here raising out of BB. Did I play this aggressive enough? What is your line?

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB raises, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero call or raise?

Koller

11-11-2004, 12:47 PM

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BB bets, Hero call or raise?

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Call.

dejableu

11-11-2004, 12:50 PM

If the villain is as solid as you say, you might consider folding. He followed up his pre-flop aggressiveness with a bet and a 3-bet on the flop when it contained three broadway cards, and you said he doesn't make mistakes. I put him on a set or a better two pair. What are you hoping that he has? The only possibility I see is AK or ATs. Everything else is trouble. I know it's weak to throw away two pair, but under these circumstances it might be your best play.

chson

11-11-2004, 01:05 PM

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If the villain is as solid as you say, you might consider folding. He followed up his pre-flop aggressiveness with a bet and a 3-bet on the flop when it contained three broadway cards, and you said he doesn't make mistakes. I put him on a set or a better two pair. What are you hoping that he has? The only possibility I see is AK or ATs. Everything else is trouble. I know it's weak to throw away two pair, but under these circumstances it might be your best play.

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CAP THE FLOP AND CALL/BET THE TURN.

BWebb

11-11-2004, 01:22 PM

First, if you are going to play this hand preflop, you should raise. Second, I'd cap the flop. If he leads the turn, call down. If he checks, bet.

ecooke

11-11-2004, 01:39 PM

You cannot call raises from solid players (TA) in the BB with marginal hands like QJo.

That said, raise the Turn (given the flop 3-bet).

TripleH68

11-11-2004, 04:56 PM

Bump.

Anyone have some solid advice for me? Thanks.

TripleH68

11-11-2004, 07:48 PM

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PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

BB in this hand is a solid player. Is aggressive and does not seem to make mistakes post-flop. I put him on a premium holding here raising out of BB. Did I play this aggressive enough? What is your line?

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB raises, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero call or raise?

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Hero calls.
River brick.
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls and shows down KK. MHIG.

If you were the BB do you play this hand the same? thanks