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deacsoft

11-09-2004, 11:18 AM

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (7.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Main Pot: 13.25 BB, between MP3 and CO. > Pot won by CO (13.25 BB).

Results in white below: 
MP3 has Ad 9s (two pair, nines and sevens).
CO has Kh Qc (two pair, queens and sevens).
Outcome: CO wins 13.25 BB.

jrz1972

11-09-2004, 11:40 AM

I'm calling the river. I think MP3 is getting cute at least 1 time in 12.

flynn799

11-09-2004, 11:44 AM

Yup call the river.

prrthd

11-09-2004, 11:45 AM

I would 3-bet the turn and call down if he caps.

DMBFan23

11-09-2004, 01:11 PM

top pair. big pot. one bet. I feel sick...

I like everything up till that. I probably just call the turn raise, anyone else three bet the turn?

sexypanda

11-09-2004, 01:40 PM

I'd call the river but I don't really see the point in 3-betting the turn. Anyone care to enlighten me?

MasterShakes

11-09-2004, 01:45 PM

The only reason that a call would be questionable is that it is an overcall on a flushed and paired board against mild aggression. Still, with the pot this size, against players who are flat out terrible (as they almost always are at this level), you have to overcall here. I think the only question is whether one of these guys (mainly MP3) has trips. I can't put him on a boat without flop aggression. I can't put him on a flush when he's raising the turn. The question is - what are the chances that neither of these guys has trips? I think they're good enough to call.

btspider

11-09-2004, 01:52 PM

call it down. 3-betting the turn is pointless.. i don't think it would have been considered if the results weren't posted.

Stupendous_Man

11-09-2004, 02:20 PM

As others have said as well, I'd call this down. I don't see the point in 3-betting the turn, as it wouldn't surprise me (at these levels) to see someone call your preflop raise with A-7 (suited or not). Obviously, there are other combinations with a 7 where people at these levels cold call raises preflop that make no sense as well.

With the turn raise, I would have thought A-7 (for trip 7's) or pocket 9's (for the set). I wouldn't have put MP3 on a flush draw. Given the pot size, I call down.

GrunchCan

11-09-2004, 03:16 PM

Weak fold on the river. If you were planning on folding on the river - presumably because you think you are behind to a set? - then why not just fold to the turn raise instead and save a BB? You sure weren't getting odds to hit your 2-outer set.

Note that I'm not advocating folding to the turn raise. Depending on my read of the opponent, I either just call or reraise. If I reraised the turn, I bet the river. If I just called the turn, I check-call the river.

Piiop

11-09-2004, 04:09 PM

Don't post results - especially in a hand like this.