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meep_42
11-08-2004, 02:34 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (14.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.
Turn: (13.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
River: (23.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
Final Pot: 29.25 BB
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Marquis
11-08-2004, 02:39 PM
Fold or raise pf. Did you have any read on MP3?
meep_42
11-08-2004, 02:42 PM
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Fold or raise pf. Did you have any read on MP3?
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Honestly, that stuck out to me as well, and I can't remember specifically why I cold-called pre-flop, but there was probably a thin reason. I should have 3-bet unless he was very passive pf.
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zephed56
11-08-2004, 02:43 PM
I would have played it the same (postflop). Preflop decision for me would be based on their pfr %.
Gotta love that table, 4 players called 2 cold on the flop.
Did he hit his 2-outer set on the river? Or was it a straight?
Either that or he's an idiot.
fairness
11-08-2004, 02:44 PM
i don't like the call preflop. book says to call if suited, fold if not. everything else looks good though. don't know how that 7 helps mp1, probably made 2 pair on the river in which case you're good. if he's a tool and caught the bottom end of a straight w/ 56 or a he caught a set that sucks, looks like AK for mp3 for him to be hanging around till the end.
mmbt0ne
11-08-2004, 02:44 PM
Pre-flop, I'd usually say raise or fold too.
That action from the flop on is pretty odd. A different player betting into you each time, you raise, and they all call. I probably play it the exact same way. Nobody seems to have a set and I can't give them credit for a straight. You have top 2 pair, so I'd assume you're good here more often than not.
Marquis
11-08-2004, 02:50 PM
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Fold or raise pf. Did you have any read on MP3?
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Honestly, that stuck out to me as well, and I can't remember specifically why I cold-called pre-flop, but there was probably a thin reason. I should have 3-bet unless he was very passive pf.
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Still, I can't think of any read that would make me *just* call.
meep_42
11-08-2004, 02:52 PM
My thinking on this hand:
Pre-flop: As discussed, not sure why I cold called, raising or folding are clearly better.
Flop: Use the PF raiser to protect my TPTK on a somewhat coordianted board.
Turn: Flop play only forcing one out, but I improve, so I raise again here thinking that BB caught his A or made a lower 2-pair.
River: The 7 doesn't change much, in my mind, as I don't think any hand in 'til the river would have improved past my top 2-pair, so I raise again.
Results:
<font color="white">MP1 shows T6s, BB shows 99, my hand is really no good. </font>
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meep_42
11-08-2004, 02:55 PM
Understood, it was clearly a mistake.
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zephed56
11-08-2004, 02:58 PM
The BB really lost the hand for himself there. He should have raised the flop, I think T6s could have folded.
fairness
11-08-2004, 02:59 PM
life goes on man
Marquis
11-08-2004, 03:06 PM
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I think T6s would have folded.
EDIT: eh, maybe not, if he's a fish I think he would have called trying to hit his gutshot.
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Look a little closer at the hand. MP1 should've jammed that flop.
RyGreen18
11-08-2004, 03:09 PM
you would think the BB would check-raise the turn with trips, poorly played...
zephed56
11-08-2004, 03:10 PM
yeah, it took me awhile to notice my mistake.
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The BB really lost the hand for himself there. He should have raised the flop, I think T6s could have folded.
EDIT: eh, maybe not, if he's a fish I think he would have called trying to hit his gutshot.
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T6s has a double gutshot on the flop, and I believe is correct to call all the way.
edit: That's clearly been stated and I should really read all the replies before posting! /images/graemlins/blush.gif
Marquis
11-08-2004, 03:16 PM
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The BB really lost the hand for himself there. He should have raised the flop, I think T6s could have folded.
EDIT: eh, maybe not, if he's a fish I think he would have called trying to hit his gutshot.
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T6s has a double gutshot on the flop, and I believe is correct to call all the way.
edit: That's clearly been stated and I should really read all the replies before posting! /images/graemlins/blush.gif
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Do you think calling with T6 is better than raising? A J may chop it or even lose it for you but there's an awful lot of people hanging around.
Oh, sorry for the confusion.
If I had been in the hand I would have been more aggressive with my T6s, I was trying to point out that his calls were correct when he made them (based solely on pot odds, really) - Though I would have probably bet out and been more aggressive in general.
davelin
11-08-2004, 03:22 PM
Thank both of them for not costing you more money.
meep_42
11-08-2004, 03:31 PM
Oh, I do. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
I was more interested in my play in this big pot, though. :P
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