PDA

View Full Version : VPIP over different poker variations


AlwaysWrong
11-08-2004, 09:54 AM
In general, as far as I know, the generally accepted way to play poker, any kind of poker, is tight-aggressive. In limit hold'em, it is advised that you voluntarily enter the pot somewhere between 15%-25% of the time. I don't know much about any other forms of poker. What I'd like to know is:

Is this a universal number that applies to all forms of (limit) poker with the same betting structure? For Omaha hi/lo should I play 15-25%? Omaha hi? Pinapple? Etc. What about something like 1-card hold'em with an extra card on the flop? What factors determine the optimal frequency for entering a pot?

Snoogins47
11-14-2004, 04:27 AM
[ QUOTE ]
In general, as far as I know, the generally accepted way to play poker, any kind of poker, is tight-aggressive. In limit hold'em, it is advised that you voluntarily enter the pot somewhere between 15%-25% of the time. I don't know much about any other forms of poker. What I'd like to know is:

Is this a universal number that applies to all forms of (limit) poker with the same betting structure? For Omaha hi/lo should I play 15-25%? Omaha hi? Pinapple? Etc. What about something like 1-card hold'em with an extra card on the flop? What factors determine the optimal frequency for entering a pot?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well simply, the only factor that dictates the optimal VPIP figure would be the number of hands (more specifically, the number of situations, especially in stud games where door cards can drastically change relative hand value) that can be played for a positive EV.

These factors include player tendencies, betting structure, possibly stack sizes, etc... but quite obviously, they're going to vary heavily based on the structure of the game, as a different set of hands and ways to win (high/low, for example,) is going to drastically alter the # of hands that can be played profitably.

So, unless one of the resident geniuses here wants to correct me, I can't see any way that your 'magic number' can possibly exist.

Eratosthenes
11-14-2004, 11:10 AM
Sklansky writes about this some in Theory of Poker. The factor that he mentions as important is the ante structure--higher antes, play more hands. (I think I remember this being discussed in Super System, also.) I don't remember either of these authors discussing tight/loose adjustments for different poker games.