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Unarmed
11-07-2004, 06:07 PM
This sort of addresses Lori's recent post.
Villain is a calling station PF, but very weak post flop. (has been since 5 handed) At hand 109 I start potting every flop. At hand 119 I stop raising PF and just complete, but still pot every flop. Not much of a sample space obviously, and I'm not trying to draw any real conclusions here, but I think completing/checking and potting the flop worked well against this type of opponent.

*********** # 102 **************
PokerStars Game #836426324: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:24:12 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (8705 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4795 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc 9d]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (200)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 103 **************
PokerStars Game #836426746: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:24:22 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (8805 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4695 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5d 8c]
Hero: raises 200 to 400
Villain: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4d 9h]
Villain: checks
Villain said, "u2"
Hero: bets 800
Villain: folds
Hero collected 800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 4d 9h]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (800)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 104 **************
PokerStars Game #836427648: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:24:43 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9205 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4295 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [2h Js]
Villain: calls 100
Hero: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 2c 2d]
Hero: checks
Villain: checks
*** TURN *** [9s 2c 2d] [Kd]
Hero: checks
Villain: checks
*** RIVER *** [9s 2c 2d Kd] [4s]
Hero: bets 400
Villain: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [2h Js] (three of a kind, Deuces)
Villain: mucks hand
Hero collected 1200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1200 | Rake 0
Board [9s 2c 2d Kd 4s]
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) showed [2h Js] and won (1200) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) mucked [5d Ac] - a pair of Deuces

*********** # 105 **************
PokerStars Game #836428577: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:25:03 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9805 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3695 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6d Ks]
Hero: raises 200 to 400
Villain: raises 3295 to 3695 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Villain collected 800 from pot
Villain: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) collected (800)

*********** # 106 **************
PokerStars Game #836429287: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:25:20 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9405 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4095 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Th Jh]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 107 **************
PokerStars Game #836429694: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:25:30 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9530 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3970 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5c 7d]
Hero: raises 200 to 400
Villain: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [3h 4d 5d]
Villain: bets 3545 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Villain collected 850 from pot
Villain: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Board [3h 4d 5d]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) collected (850)

*********** # 108 **************
PokerStars Game #836431048: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:26:01 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9105 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4395 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9d 2d]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 109 **************
PokerStars Game #836431457: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:26:11 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9230 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4270 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jh 2c]
Hero: raises 200 to 400
Villain: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Ac 7h Kd]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 800
Villain: folds
Hero collected 850 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 7h Kd]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (850)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 110 **************
PokerStars Game #836432227: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:26:28 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9655 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3845 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Js 3d]
Villain: raises 3620 to 3820 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Villain collected 450 from pot
Villain: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) collected (450)

*********** # 111 **************
PokerStars Game #836432737: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:26:41 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9430 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (4070 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s Th]
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Villain: folds
Hero collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 112 **************
PokerStars Game #836433240: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:26:52 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9655 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3845 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc 4s]
Villain: calls 100
Hero: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d Ks Ah]
Hero: bets 400
Villain: folds
Hero collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [7d Ks Ah]
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (450)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 113 **************
PokerStars Game #836434132: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:27:12 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9880 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3620 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jh As]
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Villain: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Ah 9d 2d]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 1000
Villain: folds
Hero collected 1250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 9d 2d]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (1250)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 114 **************
PokerStars Game #836434955: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:27:32 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10505 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (2995 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5d Kd]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 115 **************
PokerStars Game #836435394: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:27:42 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10630 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (2870 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [2s 9c]
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Villain: raises 2245 to 2845 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Villain collected 1250 from pot
Villain: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) collected (1250)

*********** # 116 **************
PokerStars Game #836435997: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:27:55 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10005 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3495 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac 8s]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 117 **************
PokerStars Game #836436484: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:28:06 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10130 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3370 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs 8s]
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Villain: raises 2745 to 3345 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Villain collected 1250 from pot
Villain: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) collected (1250)

*********** # 118 **************
PokerStars Game #836437149: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:28:20 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9505 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3995 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [3s As]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 119 **************
PokerStars Game #836437652: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:28:33 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9630 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3870 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4s 5s]
Hero: calls 100
Villain: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh Qd 4c]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 400
Villain: folds
Hero collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Qd 4c]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 120 **************
PokerStars Game #836438387: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:28:50 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9855 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3645 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh 2h]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 121 **************
PokerStars Game #836438851: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:29:01 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (9980 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3520 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8d Kd]
Hero: calls 100
Villain: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qh As]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 400
Villain: folds
Hero collected 450 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [Qs Qh As]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 122 **************
PokerStars Game #836439714: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:29:32 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10205 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3295 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Tc Kh]
Villain: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) collected (250)
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 123 **************
PokerStars Game #836440143: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:29:42 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10330 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (3170 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Hero: posts small blind 100
Villain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5d 8d]
Hero: calls 100
Villain: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts Th 8c]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 400
Villain: folds
Hero collected 450 from pot
Hero: shows [5d 8d] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [Ts Th 8c]
Seat 1: Hero (button) (small blind) collected (450)
Seat 6: Villain (big blind) folded on the Flop

*********** # 124 **************
PokerStars Game #836441285: Tournament #3328451, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/11/07 - 16:30:01 (ET)
Table '3328451 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (10555 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain (2945 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts the ante 25
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Js Jh]
Villain: calls 100
Hero: raises 800 to 1000
Villain: raises 1920 to 2920 and is all-in
Hero: calls 1920
*** FLOP *** [3d 4c 3h]
Hero said, "gg"
*** TURN *** [3d 4c 3h] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [3d 4c 3h 2h] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Js Jh] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
Villain: shows [Td 9h] (a pair of Threes)
Villain is sitting out
Hero collected 5890 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5890 | Rake 0
Board [3d 4c 3h 2h 6s]
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) showed [Js Jh] and won (5890) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 6: Villain (button) (small blind) showed [Td 9h] and lost with a pair of Threes

rjb03
11-07-2004, 06:12 PM
Players tend to call min raises preflop anyways. You probably could've had a similar result with 3x BB raises preflop.

Unarmed
11-07-2004, 06:15 PM
Sorry, should have mentioned: my first couple raises HU are always min-raises, just to see if my opponent will lay down his BB without me having to risk 3xBB.

Desdia72
11-07-2004, 06:18 PM
so if you're not trying to draw any real conclusions, are you saying you just wanted to post your HU summary?

Unarmed
11-07-2004, 06:24 PM
No, I replied to Lori's earlier post that I thought a strategy of checking/completing PF and auto-potting the flop might work in some situations. I haven't had time to fully think through the mathematics of such a strategy, but this was an example of it in action.

I posted that I'm not trying to draw any real conclusions because if I hadn't included that clause I would get raked over the coals for thinking that one observation meant this strategy was in some way sound.

Thanks though! If you think I'm trying to brag (which is ridiculous) check my last HU post, I lost after being up 11K to 1K