Big pairs, volume 1 - QQ

[dfscott]

After looking at a lot of my recent hands, I think I might be pushing big pairs too hard. Here are 2 QQ hands I got tonight -- looking for feedback.

Hand 1:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between UTG+1 and Hero.</font>

Hand 2:
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font>

[fairness]

hand 1 looks good, hand 2, i cap the flop and depending on a read, check/fold the turn.

[Ritter]

I think hand 1 is fine, but I'd consider checking the river - what the hell is he calling with? I'd be thinking one of those "he only calls if I'm beat" situations...but then again, looking at it again, I'm thinking JJ

Hand 2 Betting out is fine but I'd fold to the flop raise. What hands do you beat that you believe he would 3-bet pre-flop and raise the flop? AQ? AJ? TT? Really? Do you think so? I think the chances that you're behind and drawing to MAYBE 3 outs if you count the backdoor straight draw make this an easy fold.

...But that's just me

[fairness]

you don't wanna make a habit of betting out and the folding to a raise, but it's probably ok here.

[Shillx]

I don't mind directly calling hand 2 down without a read. The way you played it, I think folding the turn unimproved (Q, T and 9 look like good cards) is the way to go.

The Shill

[SlantNGo]

Hand 1 looks alright, hand 2 I call the flop raise and check/fold the turn unimproved.