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12-21-2001, 11:59 AM
Assume a dealer choice limit game, for instance $6/12 with $3 & $6 blinds. Hold'em, Omaha High and Omaha 8 works fine...but how should the structure be for Seven Card Stud / Stud-split games in a game like this, to make it equally fair for all players while not changing the structure of how the game is usually played too much?


Problems here are

1) There is usually bring-ins, not blinds in Stud ring games.


2) The increased number of betting rounds makes $6/12 Stud a somewhat bigger game than Hold'em at the same limit, not to mention Omaha 8 at the same limit, with less betting rounds and smaller swings due to the pots often getting split.


Am I totally off here? I don't have much experience at Stud games, nor Dealer's Choice games, but I'd very much like some advice on how to be able to offer all these games in a Dealer's Choice game.


lars

12-21-2001, 04:59 PM
I play in a small $.75-$1.50 home game. We play a full round of a game and then switch to the next game and so on. Example: 1 round hold em, 1 round stud, 1 round stud 8 or better. Because of the low stakes we don't have antes in the stud games, just .50 bring in. We feel that as far as FORCED money, this is the fair way to go.

12-21-2001, 09:12 PM
Aviation Club In Paris (maybe one of the best place in the world to play poker) have a 10 games dealer's choice, all pot-limit. When someone chooses a Stud game (hi, hi/lo or london lowball game) they use to play them with regular blinds and with bring-in forced bet (that is the BB).


I like the general structure but stud games lose their peculiarity.


Just for curiosity games spread in a dealer' choice table are: 1-HE, 2-HE double flop, 3-OMaha HI 4- Omaha hi-lo 5- Omaha 5 cards, 6-Courchevel 7-Aviation 8- Stud hi-lo 9- STud High and 10- London Lowball


Courchevel is a 5-Omaha game but with one flop card showing before the flop comes.


Aviation is a 4 Hold'em cards game, discarding one card preflop and one card on the flop.


Marco

12-22-2001, 03:18 AM
I play a fair amount of both $6/12 stud and $6/12 hold'em at my local card room, and the pots in hold'em are usually bigger, but it all depends on who shows up that night. Stud has more betting rounds, but while a lot of money can go in before the flop in hold'em, the pots on third street in stud are usually fairly small. You don't see much capped six-way action in stud.


The structure for a casino $6/12 stud game is a $1 ante and a $2 forced bet on the low card by suit (clubs being lowest, then diamonds, hearts, and spades). The low card has the option of bringing it in for $6. If he brings it in for $2, another player may "complete" the bet to $6. In a home game, you might choose to have an ante and no bring-in, or perhaps a bring-in only like small casino stud games. I recommend an ante. I'd also recommend that you have the dealer ante for the whole table, which eliminates disputes about who didn't ante.


Unless you go with just an ante for each game (a reasonable choice for a home game), you're going to have to have a full round of each game so that everyone pays the same amount in blinds/antes. Alternately, you could have a round of flop games, dealer's choice, followed by a round of stud games, dealer's choice.


Hope this was helpful.