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TheHip41
11-04-2004, 11:22 AM
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Yads
11-04-2004, 01:39 PM
That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.
davelin
11-04-2004, 01:41 PM
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That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.

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This is typical BB hitting trips behavior on Party.
prrthd
11-04-2004, 01:51 PM
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That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.

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This is typical BB hitting trips behavior on Party.

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I would still call this down, even if he is beat he still has a re-draw for a FH.
davelin
11-04-2004, 01:52 PM
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That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.

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This is typical BB hitting trips behavior on Party.

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I wouldn't call 2-outs a strong re-draw.
prrthd
11-04-2004, 01:58 PM
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That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.

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This is typical BB hitting trips behavior on Party.

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I wouldn't call 2-outs a strong re-draw.

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I would count the 9's as outs also. It is no where near certain that someone has a 9. I think it is worth it for one bet.
davelin
11-04-2004, 02:30 PM
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That's pretty weak unless you're pretty sure somebody just hit a straight or BB is slow playing his trips.

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This is typical BB hitting trips behavior on Party.

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I wouldn't call 2-outs a strong re-draw.

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I would count the 9's as outs also. It is no where near certain that someone has a 9. I think it is worth it for one bet.

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I thought we were assuming Hero was behind likely trips. If he's behind a straight, you're right.
Col Klink
11-04-2004, 03:06 PM
At 2/4 or higher, I would call this down. The board is very bluff-able and a lot more players will try it. At 0.5/1, I think this is a good fold.
Stupendous_Man
11-04-2004, 05:14 PM
Why would you lay this down on the turn raise? Do you have a read on the BB that makes you think he has a 9 or called the preflop raise with Q-T? I think this is a fairly routine call. I could see the BB having a T in his hand and having an OESD (though I'm not suggesting that the BB's raise was smart, if this was true). I also wouldn't have put him on JJ, QQ, KK, or AA.
PokerIsLife
11-04-2004, 05:32 PM
I think this was a good fold. Unless, the BB is known to bluff, I don't think calling down would be beneficial here.