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wacki
11-02-2004, 12:52 PM
Director Quentin Tarantino says he's planning a kung-fu film with all the dialogue in Mandarin Chinese and out-of-sync English dubbing in homage to many such films in the past.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137325,00.html

I loved Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but his movies are getting weirder and weirder.

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 12:53 PM
well, it can't be any worse than Kill Bill 2.

wacki
11-02-2004, 12:55 PM
I haven't seen that yet, was that worse than Kill Bill 1?

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 12:58 PM
yeah, definitely. KB1 was funny and fast paced. KB2 is boring and to long. I stopped paying attention half way through it and was eagerly anticipating the end of the movie.

scrub
11-02-2004, 12:58 PM
Kill Bill 2 was actually pretty good.

Unlike your fantasy team--your centerless roster is going down, baby!

scrub

banditbdl
11-02-2004, 01:03 PM
I have to second this, I actually really enjoyed both Kill Bill 1 and 2. How can you not just love every scene Carradine is in throughout the 2nd movie. As for the Mandarin Chinese bit, doesn't appeal much to me, but as long as the Weinstein's are giving Quentin a freepass, he might as well use it.

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 01:04 PM
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Kill Bill 2 was actually pretty good.

Unlike your fantasy team--your centerless roster is going down, baby!

scrub

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Scrub, its apparent you have poor judgement. Who needs a center when you have Lebron, D. Wade, K-Mart, and The Matrix?

M2d
11-02-2004, 01:05 PM
I really like KBII, but as a sequal. not as a stand alone movie. it served to tie up a lot of loose ends that were left hanging after the initial volume.

nicky g
11-02-2004, 01:06 PM
He wants to make a classic kung fu move. Classic kungfu movies are in Chinese with bad English dubbing.

Ok it's silly. But kung fu movies are silly. They're like porn movies; forget about the plot, the dialogue, eveything. Watch the action. As long as the fights are good, he can do what he wants with the language as far as I'm concerned.

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 01:06 PM
but it was soooooooooo boring. Especially Grasshopper.

andyfox
11-02-2004, 01:09 PM
I have a friend who's making a movie with Quentin that will be much stranger than this. I shouldn't say any more than that now, but it is tentatively entitled "Tommy-Gun Kate," so you have at least some idea . . .

wacki
11-02-2004, 01:10 PM
nicky g,

You've got a good point. Oddly enough, my interest is peaked. It's probably going to be the worst movie ever, and everyone will love it.

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 01:19 PM
andy,
You are such an insider /images/graemlins/cool.gif

astroglide
11-02-2004, 02:15 PM
kill bill 2 is one of my favorite movies, and i like it WAY better than the first

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 02:24 PM
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kill bill 2 is one of my favorite movies, and i like it WAY better than the first

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/tongue.gif, eh, to boring for my taste, to each his own though, right?

ilya
11-02-2004, 02:25 PM
F'in awesome. This "Inglorious Bastards" thing sounded sketchy anyhow.
As far as I'm conerned Tarantino just keeps getting better and better.

ilya
11-02-2004, 02:28 PM
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but it was soooooooooo boring. Especially Grasshopper.

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I think you kinda have to be into the crappy kung-fu flick thing to fully enjoy that part.
On second thought...nah. It's f'in hilarious.

ilya
11-02-2004, 02:28 PM
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kill bill 2 is one of my favorite movies, and i like it WAY better than the first

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word

ilya
11-02-2004, 02:30 PM
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I have a friend who's making a movie with Quentin that will be much stranger than this. I shouldn't say any more than that now, but it is tentatively entitled "Tommy-Gun Kate," so you have at least some idea . . .

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you bastard
do you know tarantino?
i'm jealous anyway

vulturesrow
11-02-2004, 02:43 PM
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kill bill 2 is one of my favorite movies, and i like it WAY better than the first

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/tongue.gif, eh, to boring for my taste, to each his own though, right?

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I think that to really enjoy KB2 you have to really be a fan of the genre that Tarantino is drawing from. This was true in the first movie to a degree but I think it was easier for the average person to enjoy KB1. KB2 because it is a little slower and more "chatty" was harder for people to get into. That being said, I loved it!

TSC, "I still value our friendship" /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kopefire
11-02-2004, 02:47 PM
The man's a genius of the first order.

As a film buff I loved every minute of KB I & II. He pays homage to some great cinematic moments in very creative ways, at the same time telling a very compelling story in an original and engaging way.

KB is going to go down in cinematic history as a truly great piece of film-making.

I'll refrain from judgement on any project he has coming down the pipe, but from what he's done so far, I'm strongly inclined to suspect I'll like it just fine . .. .

GuyOnTilt
11-02-2004, 02:47 PM
I'm just tagging this as a reply to an arbitrary post in this thread, but you guys are talking about Kill Bill as if they were two seperate films. They were one. There was no sequel.

GoT

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 02:50 PM
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"I still value our friendship"

[/ QUOTE ] And I value yours!!! /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

There was simply to much dialogue for me, and this from a guy who loves the dialogue in Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

ThaSaltCracka
11-02-2004, 03:00 PM
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at the same time telling a very compelling story in an original and engaging way.


[/ QUOTE ] original? yes, in fact thats what I like about Q.
Engaging? No, the story was fairly predictable.

Kopefire
11-02-2004, 03:09 PM
The way he told the story was engaging. I didn't say the story was engaging.

In fact, in pulp fiction, part of the genius of the film is that it makes a very un-engaging story intersting not by the plot, but by the way the plot is revealed.

vulturesrow
11-02-2004, 03:11 PM
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I'm just tagging this as a reply to an arbitrary post in this thread, but you guys are talking about Kill Bill as if they were two seperate films. They were one. There was no sequel.

GoT

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You're picking flysh*t out of pepper. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

elwoodblues
11-02-2004, 03:21 PM
Not meant to be nitpicky, only informative:

it's piqued your interest, not peaked.

astroglide
11-02-2004, 03:44 PM
yeah that's a common one. so is "hunger pains" instead of "hunger pangs"

wacki
11-02-2004, 03:52 PM
English was never my strong suit. I've never heard of hunger pangs, does anyone use that anymore? All the books I've read use pains.

vulturesrow
11-02-2004, 03:54 PM
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English was never my strong suite. I've never heard of hunger pangs, does anyone use that anymore? All the books I've read use pangs.

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Pangs would be used by those that believe in proper English /images/graemlins/smile.gif

wacki
11-02-2004, 03:56 PM
Damn, you quoted me before I could fix my typos.

astroglide
11-02-2004, 03:59 PM
i was a natural at english/spelling. i didn't go to college and i almost dropped out of high school, so i have no idea where my vocabulary came from.

actually, i have no idea from where my vocabulary came.

Ulysses
11-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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I'm just tagging this as a reply to an arbitrary post in this thread, but you guys are talking about Kill Bill as if they were two seperate films. They were one. There was no sequel.


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You're being a dork. Of course they were two separate films. You can go on about how he made them, why they were released as such, etc. I know all of that. But to say they were not two separate films is silly. They were edited, released, and (by most) viewed as two separate films.

Blarg
11-02-2004, 05:50 PM
Kill Bill 2 was definitely much better than Kill Bill 1.

I'm interested in anything Tarantino does. I didn't warm up to Jackie Brown too much, but I just went and watched it again, and it grows on you a bit. I had the same experience with Reservoir Dogs, in that the more I saw it the more I liked it, but I also started out liking that one a lot more than Jackie Brown.

I think the one that really moves most smoothly is still Pulp Fiction. There were no real low points or places it dragged or just wasn't nearly as exciting, unlike his other films.

I do love Chinese kung fu films, and would happily watch this new weird kung fu film gambit he's talking about. I used to watch all those old cheesy kung fu flicks in Chinatown in Hawaii, and nobody even paid attention to the dialogue -- they talked right through it; but when the kung fu came on, it was like the second coming of Jesus or something. If Tarantino brings back that film experience, I'd love it.

I only hope his kung fu action direction gets better. He did way too much MTV-style quick cutting in Kill Bill 1 that made it hard to see and enjoy some of the moves, which is what kung-fu flicks are all about. Just like with dance films, you need wide shots to really see what's going on. And you don't need a ton of cutting to artificially hype up what's already incredibly exciting and fascinating all by itself; too much cutting ups the cheese factor way more than the excitement factor, and often leaves you feeling cheated that you missed the best part of the action because the director was so intent on showing off and forgot that he himself wasn't the star, the performance was.

And I hope he includes training sequences. Those are very often some of the most fun parts of a kung fu flick, and it adds a lot to the battles when you see that a guy is not just some tough guy, but had to work hard and suffer to get to where he got good enough to beat the villains. The more detailed the better -- it's great to see a villain who beat up the hero in the beginning of the film getting defeated by him later, because the hero is not only much better, but has learned specifically how to survive the particular style of the villain's kung-fu. Learning is at the heart of kung fu and kung fu movies, and the learning behind the fighting scenes makes the hero's victories much more satisfying and psychological. American martial arts movies usually skip that, and that's one reason why their kicks and punches can feel so generic -- there's no triumph in them of skill attained after long suffering.

Anyway, Quentin was wise enough to have Kiddo go through some training; I have confidence he can do a very fun kung fu film, if he lets his style reveal the action and not try to hype it up or become a substitute for it.

Lawrence Ng
11-02-2004, 08:08 PM
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well, it can't be any worse than Kill Bill 2.

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KB 2 was such a dissapointment.

theBruiser500
11-03-2004, 01:43 AM
salt cracker i don't like you anymore how can you say kill bill 2 was bad? you're so stupid

andyfox
11-03-2004, 01:47 AM
No, don't know him. My friend's father was a famous B-movie producer and an ex-family member ran a studio for a while, so he's got some connections and regales me with stories.

ThaSaltCracka
11-03-2004, 01:55 AM
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salt cracker i don't like you anymore how can you say kill bill 2 was bad? you're so stupid

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It was boring man!!!!!

theBruiser500
11-03-2004, 01:56 AM
no it wasn't, it was amazing

"i must warn you young woman, i am suseptible to flattery"

"how'd you find me?"
"i'm the man"

ThaSaltCracka
11-03-2004, 01:58 AM
booo that movie. Easily his second worst movie.

mikeyvegas
11-03-2004, 03:28 AM
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kill bill 2 is one of my favorite movies, and i like it WAY better than the first

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Agreed

theBruiser500
11-03-2004, 03:53 AM
they're both masterpieces