Late in MTT with Pocket Pair and 2 short stack all-ins, do you call? [Archive]

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Lloyd

11-02-2004, 01:38 AM

Party Poker Super Monday tournament. 905 entrants with about 85 left (in the money). Average stack is around 11k and I'm at 15k. Would you call two (one is easy) all-in bets from short stacks?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed)

UTG (t5730)
UTG+1 (t8698)
MP1 (t2321)
MP2 (t9520)
MP3 (t17788)
CO (t2576)
Button (t21507)
Hero (t15305)
BB (t18568)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t2321 (All-In), 2 folds, CO raises to t2576 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t2176, 1 fold.

Flop: (t8273) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t8273) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t8273) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t8273

Vee Quiva

11-02-2004, 03:29 PM

I think this is an easy call. You have two players who are desperate with less than 4 times the big blind. It only costs you a small part of your stack.

The only reason to fold would be if you stepped up big in prize money with one or two more eliminations. Since there are 80 or so left, I doubt that was an issue.

Rduke55

11-02-2004, 04:18 PM

I agree. You have a long way to go and can get these people going all-in with crap.
That ace probably killed you though.

Lloyd

11-02-2004, 10:17 PM

Thanks. Right on all points. I called. And the ace killed me. I thought it was the right move but facing two all-ins I was a little apprehensive.

vandalay

11-02-2004, 11:37 PM

Simple math to me...
for people to go all in under those conditions they need any ace or any pair....

I think they could easily have had Ax and 55.... or hopefully they both have AK and have each others outs.

with that kind of money, I would call.... might push over the top to keep other people out.

depends on the reads I have been seeing.

Masquerade

11-03-2004, 05:56 AM

Surely its easier to call two than one - same downside, double the upside! They might have similar high card hands if youre lucky, making it less likely they hit.

Lloyd

11-03-2004, 02:35 PM

While there's a chance one of them has a bigger pair, I don't think that's a safe assumption. So if you put them both on aces, and even assume a kicker bigger than my pair, I still have about a 40% chance of winning so the odds were clearly in my favor.

Thanks for the responses. One thing I didn't think about at the time was the fact that they both probably have an ace giving them one less out. That point was helpful for beyond this hand.

Scooterdoo

11-03-2004, 02:40 PM

But they are 'all-ins' from two desperate short-stacks that you have covered by many times, so the chances are fairly good that you're the favorite. The first guy could have any A and the second guy could have any pair and an A with only a decent kicker or even a hand like KQs. You had to make this call in my opinion.