ethics question in O/8

Playing 3-6 O/8, board was 5-5-3-2-1 rainbow. At the showdown, 1 other player, I had A-10-3-2, opponent had A-K-3-2 and he pushed forward his A-3. Dealer said split the pot. I said he has K kicker for AAK55 and should get the whole pot. Everyone at the table, including opponent said split with both having AA33. The pot was split and on to the next deal. Should I have taken the money or pushed the whole thing to oppoonent - even though I tried to concede and he wanted to split?


Thanks for all comments

iblucky4u2 - You fulfilled your moral obligation by pointing out the error to the dealer, your opponent, and the rest of the table. However, they read the cards differently. Your opponent, especially, did not hearken to you. Could it be that somehow you are the one mis-reading the hand? (Although as you have transcribed the hand, it does not seem you are in error, perhaps you have mis-transcribed the hand).


Take the split, forget the hand, and sleep well.


Buzz

Tough question. I think its OK to correct the dealer once and if everybody is happy then, hey, be happy. This is a lot like a player who won't show down his mis-read winner.


1st hand in a new casino in Hold'em. I'm in the single blind, an obvious tight player called UTG, the field called, and I checked. Flop was Q64. I check raised the tight player. Turn is J he calls. River pair's the 4 and I bet and he calls. I turn over Q6 for two pair. He turns over pocket Aces. I muck my hand and turn to deal with the coctail waitress. The tight player whispers that he was afraid that's what I had and when I turn around to look, the pot is sitting in front of me and the deck is being shuffled. The tight player asks "Where are you from". .... what to do .... I said "The planet Earth, I think", tipped the dealer and stacked the chips.


- Louie

Actually given the above rendition of the hand you both have the same low hand, and therefore, you would get 1/4 of the pot. This is of course assuming that the high end is cut up correctly. Your opponent should have won 3/4 of the pot half because of the best high hand, and you and he split with the same low hand!!!!!

As I read it, there is no low in this hand. It's a scoop for the high and the A-A-5-5-K should beat A-A-5-5-10

Thanks to all for your response - the hand was described correctly - neither had a low and my opponent had the best hand, but I had 1/2 the chips.

Dear iblucky4u2,


I just got in on the tail end of this post "your subject" and I realize that similar situations occur every now and then "when playing OM8 and poker in general."


For instance, I have been awarded pots where the real winner thought I had the best hand, and I also thought I had the best hand. One one occasion I was told after the showdown by smiling players "quietly of course" that I really didn't have the best hand. I guess the other players didn't like the guy with the best hand and so they kept quiet. "Words of Wisdom" or a lesson to be learned here in not do do things at the table which make other players dislike you.


On others ocassions in OM8 it is sometimes difficult to speak out to insure that the pot is awarded to the winning hands. Some dealers "a few" cannot read Omaha 8 hands "period." Sometimes a player trying to be helpful misreads the hands and can be subject to ridicule by other players. Also some times a very good friend of yours is about to be wrongly awarded the pot -- it can be hard to speak up on occasions like this -- depending upon the nature of your friend.

That is the reason why I never ask to see a mucked hand. Some people don't know it, but if a winning hand asks to see a hand, the mucked hand is not considered dead, and you might end up losing.