I swear someone is cheating

[kurosh]

WTF??? Try to put these people on hands. I'll post results later. If anyone gets all of them right, I will pay them $100. This was over 2 tables with FOUR different complete morons within a span of 5 minutes. I swear something is wrong here.

Stack sizes aren't really relevant. Everyone has a comfortable amount.

Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:2 Stakes (30/60)
Dealt to Hero Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds. Hero raises [60]. Complete Moron raises [90].
Everyone folds. Hero calls [30].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
Hero bets [30]. Complete Moron calls [30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
Hero bets [60]. Complete Moron calls [60].
** Dealing River ** [ 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
Hero bets [60]. Complete Moron raises [120]. Hero calls [60].

Normally I don't raise and call down with ace high but these people have called my raises and reraised me with SEVEN HIGH.


Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:1 Stakes (15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ]
2 folds. CompleteMoron1 raises [30]. 2 folds. Someguy calls [30]. Hero raises [45]. 2 folds. CompleteMoron2 calls [30]. CompleteMoron1 raises [30]. Someguy calls [30]. Hero calls [15]. CompleteMoron2 calls [15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
Checked to Hero. Hero bets, all call.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
Checked to Hero. Hero bets, all call.
** Dealing River ** [ 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
Checked to Hero. Hero bets [30]. CM2 raises [60]. CM1 raises [90]. Hero calls [60]. CM2 calls [30].



Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:2 Stakes (30/60)
Dealt to Hero [ K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
CompleteMoron calls [30]. 7 folds. Someguy calls [15]. Hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
SG checks. Hero bets [30]. CM calls [30]. SG folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ T/images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
Hero bets [60]. CM calls [60].
** Dealing River ** [ 8/images/graemlins/club.gif ]
Hero bets [60]. CM calls [60].

[EnderW27]

first hand, the guy had Q6. Not quite sure why you bet the river or called his raise, but oh well.
Second hand, again Q6, probably also A6. Suck it up.
Third hand, 67.

Do I get $100, or will it be $103 for listening to those stories?

[lorinda]

I think I know what they were up to.

Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee

Those LHE events are amongst the craziest on the net.
Last night had 5 million drunk RedSox fans online too, it was a dream (unless you took the bad beats)

Lori

[Cleveland Guy]

1st hand - T6 off suit
2nd hand - J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and a 6 off suit for one player 64 off for the other
3rd Hand - t8 sooted

[PrayingMantis]

Forgive me for saying this, but reading this post and few other posts of yours here, I suspect you have the wrong attitude for this game.

[wjmooner]

Bad beat happen. Sucks dude. As for the chance at 100$, here are my guesses.

1. 72 offsuit. He rivered two pair.
2. 26 offsuit for one moron and J6 offsuit for the other one, only because that is funnier than a straightforward flush draw, or even a gutshot on the flop. They both rivered the straight.
3. Assuming you lost you must have been against 83offsuit. Rivered again.

If I'm right I'd probably be laughing my head off. I'm afraid I'm pretty close though.

WJ

[jakethebake]

Sounds like a definite conspiracy to me. I think PokerStars is definitely is out to get you. Be careful. Be very, very careful.

[Irieguy]

This use of time is very, very non-productive for you. It's very common for people to post "what were they thinking?" threads... but all it does is fuel frustration.

It's easier to say than to do, but to be successful as a SNG player, you must be able resist the urge to ruminate over a hand. Decisions are all that matter, and by entertaining the thought process of "what were they thinking," you train your mind to focus on items that are not pertinent to proper decision making. This can lead to a deterioration of decision making skills.

People wear black socks with tennis shoes. It's senseless. But it's even more senseless to wonder why they do it... especially if you're a black-socks salesman.

Embrace the oddity of mankind. Without such folly, we'd all be insane.

Irieguy

[lorinda]

People wear black socks with tennis shoes. It's senseless. But it's even more senseless to wonder why they do it... especially if you're a black-socks salesman

It's very rare a piece of advice, or new line really gets to me in games that I'm used to. But this is great stuff.

Lori

[kurosh]

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Forgive me for saying this, but reading this post and few other posts of yours here, I suspect you have the wrong attitude for this game.

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Such as? This is my first WTF bad beat post.

[jcm4ccc]

Hand #1: Why such a small bet on the flop? Didn't you want them to fold?

Hand #2: What did you bet on the flop? Was it big enough to make a sensible player fold?

Hand #3: Why not a bigger bet on the flop? Also, why such a small bet on the turn? Didn't you want them to fold?

[kurosh]

I'm about to be off for a while so here we go.

Hand 1: 3-bet preflop with T/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif for the runner-runner gutshot straight.

Hand 2: CompleteMoron1 3-bet preflop had J/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif for the runner-runner gutshot straight as well. CompleteMoron2 had Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif again for the runner-runner gutshot straight.

Hand 3: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif for the fourth runner-runner gutshot straight. Thanks for not reraising me there on the river buddy.

[kurosh]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand #1: Why such a small bet on the flop? Didn't you want them to fold?

Hand #2: What did you bet on the flop? Was it big enough to make a sensible player fold?

Hand #3: Why not a bigger bet on the flop? Also, why such a small bet on the turn? Didn't you want them to fold?

[/ QUOTE ]

It's limit.

[jakethebake]

[ QUOTE ]
People wear black socks with tennis shoes. It's senseless. But it's even more senseless to wonder why they do it... especially if you're a black-socks salesman.

[/ QUOTE ]
Good one! What about the tennis shoe salesman?

[Cleveland Guy]

I'm re-reading the hands here. and while you call these guys complete morons, how do you classify yourself?

Hand #1 - your betting to the river in a LIMIT game with A high against aggression? Do you give him no credit for hitting his hand at any time during the action? You didn't hit yours

Hand #2 - WTF are you doing on the river? Bad beat or not, you called 2 bets on the river with a straight and flush out there, and you just holding a pair of 10's.

Also I looked at his 3 bet. His first raise was to open the betting, not a GREAT play with JT suited, but in limit not a bad one. Then you raise, so he doesn't want to be bullied around, so he re-raises. Again, not a great line, but not a bad one.

And since you don't seem to know where the fold or check button is, given the right read this isn't a terrible move to try and isolate you.

[MrX]

Am I the only player that sees bizarre plays like this all the time. We lose a few chips from time to time on these, but play enough and these are the BOZOS that are buying your flat screen monitors, DVD players, and visits to the brothel. We do not realize how many crazy draws are out there because they fold to the our river bet. Embrace the moron, love the moron, do not chastise the moron, and play all the time with the moron so the "luck" they have cannot be sustained. They are not cheating, just gamblers, visit any B&M casino or casino and they are all over.

MrX

[jcm4ccc]

sorry--my stupidity.

[PrayingMantis]

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Forgive me for saying this, but reading this post and few other posts of yours here, I suspect you have the wrong attitude for this game.


[/ QUOTE ] Such as? This is my first WTF bad beat post.

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It isn't necessarily just about bad beats. I don't mean it to be some kind of a personal criticism, but only from very recently I remember you saying in one post "I HATE PEOPLE WHO LIMP WITH KINGS AND ACES", and in another claiming that you have "Rarely lost heads-up in a SNG" (3 options: BS, very small sample, or misunderstanding of the word "rarely").

There were some others that caught my eye. The fact that you call your opponents in the hands you've posted here "morons", is another problem, IMO. You don't have to listen to me of course, but I'm pretty sure this is not the right approach for this game.

[kurosh]

I bet and call them down because of my reads on them. They're absolute maniacs. Like I said, they had bet into me with 7 high before. Most of the time my ace high is good. I'm not upset about these bad beats, I just wanted to share them. I ended up winning 2 of the 3 SNG's because they would do that.

[Cleveland Guy]

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I bet and call them down because of my reads on them. They're absolute maniacs. Like I said, they had bet into me with 7 high before. Most of the time my ace high is good. I'm not upset about these bad beats, I just wanted to share them. I ended up winning 2 of the 3 SNG's because they would do that.

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I still don't think that makes it a good play. Why give more chips to a maniac? If you know he is loose, then why not wait for a premium hand and charge it for him?

I'll let maniacs bluff at me all day, cause I only need to trap them 1 time to make it pay off.

[kurosh]

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Forgive me for saying this, but reading this post and few other posts of yours here, I suspect you have the wrong attitude for this game.


[/ QUOTE ] Such as? This is my first WTF bad beat post.

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It isn't necessarily just about bad beats. I don't mean it to be some kind of a personal criticism, but only from very recently I remember you saying in one post "I HATE PEOPLE WHO LIMP WITH KINGS AND ACES", and in another claiming that you have "Rarely lost heads-up in a SNG" (3 options: BS, very small sample, or misunderstanding of the word "rarely").

There were some others that caught my eye. The fact that you call your opponents in the hands you've posted here "morons", is another problem, IMO. You don't have to listen to me of course, but I'm pretty sure this is not the right approach for this game.

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I post hands where I'm frustrated or confused at what happened. When I'm frustrated, I'm generally upset too so I tend to vent a little. Regarding my post about rarely losing heads-up in a SNG, it HAD been that way for a long time and then I started losing the majority of the time. I don't see anything odd with that statement even if it continued to be true. A lot of people have a style where they go out in 3rd or go into heads-up with a big chip advantage. You can call them fish or maniacs but I call them morons.

[PrayingMantis]

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When I'm frustrated, I'm generally upset too so I tend to vent a little.

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Let me understand this: you said in this thread you ended winning 2 of these 3 games, and yet you are frustrated enough to call your opponents in these few hands morons and cheaters? I don't get this kind of venting. Seriously.

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Regarding my post about rarely losing heads-up in a SNG, it HAD been that way for a long time and then I started losing the majority of the time

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You probably have your own definition of "long time", but that's fine.

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I don't see anything odd with that statement even if it continued to be true.

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Hmmmm. So you actually think it's possible to "rarely" lose HU in an SNG? OK.


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A lot of people have a style where they go out in 3rd or go into heads-up with a big chip advantage. You can call them fish or maniacs but I call them morons.

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I don't understand your point or your logic here.