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05-14-2002, 11:32 PM
A situation developed in a 1-5 game I was in this weekend where I believe the floorperson was "out of line"


We had an older gentleman sit down in the game who was legally blind. A nice old man who wanted to sit in the game and have a good time. His daughter was sitting behind him.


This gentleman was a good person to have in the game. First the very fact that he was blind speaks for itself. Second, he played lots of hands and was generally a very loose player. Lastly, as I said above he was just there to have a good time.


Now here is where the issue comes in. Like I said above his daughter was sitting behind him. Since he was blind, every once in a while she would tell him what cards were out on the table. ( since he couldn't see them ) Well after a while we had one jackass of a player complain to the floorperson that the 'one person to a hand' rule was being violated. I spoke right up and said that she is just telling him what cards are out in play. He of course was being a d*ck.


Finally floorperson came over and told the nice old man and the daughter that they couldn't speak while a hand was in progress. Obviously the old man got upset and left the game with his daughter.


I was Pis*ed off to say the least. He was the perfect opponent to have in the game who ultimately I didn't think was doing anything wrong. ( I am usually a stinker for rules too )


I had a few words with that particular floorperson after.


You be the judge.


Later,


CJ

05-15-2002, 12:01 AM
I have played $2/4 hold'em (not recently) with a blind person a couple of times. He has an assistant who looks at his hole cards and whispers them to him. She also reads off the board cards as they come down. He makes all of the decisions.


In this case, I really don't think that the one player to a hand rule, which is an extremely important rule, is being violated. Frequently a player on one end of the table will ask the dealer to read off the board of a player sitting on the other end of the table. I mean, if the lady was saying, "Dad, don't bet into him; he's showing four to a flush," that would be highly objectionable. If she just helps him out here and there, though, I don't really see the problem, especially if she only offers assistance when asked. Perhaps it would be less objectionable if he were to ask the dealer when he needs assistance. Certainly, they should have been able to come to some sort of compromise. It would probably have been better if they had gone to a floorperson first and asked what kind of arrangement could be made. Next time, maybe he should play hold'em and sit in the five seat. /images/smile.gif

05-15-2002, 02:09 PM
Floorman couldn't be more wrong here. Somebody has to read the cards for a blind guy. How different is this than when somebody asks the dealer what cards the guy at the other end of the table has? (But if I was blind, I'd only play hold'em, I'm not that smart)

05-16-2002, 03:52 PM
This is so typical of employees who don't realize what buisness they are really in. This is the "Service" business, just like a restaurant. Restaurant's provide atmosphere, service, and then food. Casinos provide a good time, service and then gambling. The floor man and the objecting player are both idiots.

One feature of poker that I like is that the table is the great equalizer. It does not matter what your age, gender, ethnicity, etc. are. It is an excellent way for disabled people to socialize as well. Larry Flynnt said in an interview that he could not go mountain climbing, so he enjoys poker instead.

05-16-2002, 04:30 PM
That floor was insensitive and made a bad decision. Given the nature of society today, I wouldn't be surprised that the casino hears from the ACLU about this...


90% of the businesses I see have a rule that no dogs are allowed, but seeing-eye dogs are admitted. I suppose that jerk feels like a big man for crapping on other people's enjoyment too. Just the kind of crap that is never needed at the card-room.


Treefrog

05-16-2002, 09:41 PM
"This gentleman was a good person to have in the game. First the very fact that he was blind speaks for itself"


ha ha ha, i have heard about gameselection, but this is too low. Leave the old gentleman alone.