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morgant
10-27-2004, 01:00 AM
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, ??????
Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Trix
10-27-2004, 04:39 AM
Either 3bet the flop or CR the turn, I really dont get the sng unless he is aggro enough to make you wanna 3bet the turn.

I probably call down the turn. The Aces are very likely outs and 4,5,J probably give you around 5 more, plus you might be ahead.

ShamaLamDingDong
10-27-2004, 05:14 AM
WHY DID YOU JUST CALL THE FLOP??? YOU MUST 3BET. I can see no benefit to calling and leading the turn...
Fold to the turn 3bet unless you know something I don't...

SHAMA LAMA...DING DONG!

Joe Tall
10-27-2004, 05:48 AM
3-bet the flop, I can't see why you did not.

However, UTGs cold call then come-alive on the turn screams set. I let it go on the turn.

Go Sox!
-Joe Tall

ShamaLamDingDong
10-27-2004, 08:13 AM
Listen to Joe he knows what hes talkin bout.

SHAMA LAMA...DING DONG!

Topflight
10-27-2004, 09:16 AM
It seems like the only reason to smooth call the flop raise would be to checkraise the turn. But you bet out?

UTG must be crushing you. Best case scenario for you is that he has 2 pair. You should probably drop this to the check 3 bet.

morgant
10-27-2004, 11:26 AM
yes i know i should have 3 bet the flop. but i thought if i get a non threatening card, i could lead again and get raised again by dude on left who will play top pair any kicker this hard, so i can get a 3-bet on his arse. only problem is wtf utg? so yes i folded to his bet and didnt get to see a showdown.

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I Play 2 Ski
10-27-2004, 12:16 PM
3 Bet that flop!!!!!! Since UTG called 2 cold on the flop he may already have 2 pair or a set, but if you 3 bet the flop and he calls 3 cold, the you should slow a bit on the turn. If UTG has a set its likely 44 IMO.

joker122
10-27-2004, 01:55 PM
WHY ARE ALL OF YOUR POSTS SO OBNOXIOUS??? It's one thing to not know what you're talking about, but when you accentuate your ignorance by putting it in caps it's really [censored] annoying. YOU MUST STOP THIS.

SHAMA LAMA....KILL YOURSELF!

joker122
10-27-2004, 01:59 PM
Hey morgan. As Trix said the stop n go in an attempt to get a 3bet in on the turn is usually best if you know your opponent well enough, and is also much better heads up.

I call the 2 cold on the turn, and call 1 on the river.