anyone wanna make a serious shot at the partypoker jackpot?

[Alobar]

With the jackpot as high as it is, I think its worth a shot.

Are there enough people here interested, that we could take over all ten seats at a 2/4 table. Play jackpot only hands, and check them down to the river. Anyone game to give this a shot? Split the totaljackpot out evenly across all ten seats regardless of who wins

PM me or post here and if there is interest well see if we can get something going. Hell if there were enough people we could keep the table manned 24/7 until it gets hit

[busguy]

so silly it might work

count me in

/images/graemlins/smile.gif busguy

[Brain]

Worth a try. I'm hanging out there already.

[Nemesis]

If they knew you were doing it they would disqualify you.

[Brain]

Right. Hence the talking about it here, not there.

[NLfool]

hmmm sounds like quite a good idea, though I can see party reviewing the hand histories and saying WTF and disqualifying it.

EDIT: man you people are quick at posting

[Homer]

How often is the JP hit? I'll guess once every two days.

How many JP tables run at a time? I'll guess 250.

If these numbers are correct, the hourly EV of doing this is $7.50 per person (448,000*.8*.1*(1/250)*(1/24)).

-- Homer

[NLfool]

I'm think less than once every 2 days. Anyways I've never been so happy to have everyone hit runner runner on me. Could get old real fast but I just need one good runner runner and I'm on vacation for the next couple months

[Homer]

Just realized you'll probably get in about twice as many hands per hour as the other tables, so EV might be more like $15 per hour, assuming my other numbers are correct. Of course, you always have to consider the logistics of transferring tens of thousands of dollars to 8 random people.

PS - I'm in, btw. What table?

[TheTimeIsUp]

Yea, I am interested too, whats the table?

[Brain]

This is the only nitty part of their rules (straight from the site):
Players must play their hands independently and cannot tell opponents how to act or reveal their hand to other players. Violations will disqualify the hand for the Jackpot.

As long as nobody screams, "Stay in! Don't fold, I've got it!!", I think we'd be okay.

[Homer]

FYI, hand must be raked, so if you have a qualifying hand (4 8's or better, using both hole cards), you must bet the river. And of course if you see someone bet and you have a qualifying hand, you have to cap it and then we're all on easy street.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the only nitty part of their rules (straight from the site):
Players must play their hands independently and cannot tell opponents how to act or reveal their hand to other players. Violations will disqualify the hand for the Jackpot.

As long as nobody screams, "Stay in! Don't fold, I've got it!!", I think we'd be okay.

[/ QUOTE ]

right, no one would talk about it at the table. Do you think we'd get DQed if like the 400 hands before the jackpot gets hit all checked to the river? Its kind of obvious :/

[Homer]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is the only nitty part of their rules (straight from the site):
Players must play their hands independently and cannot tell opponents how to act or reveal their hand to other players. Violations will disqualify the hand for the Jackpot.

As long as nobody screams, "Stay in! Don't fold, I've got it!!", I think we'd be okay.

[/ QUOTE ]

right, no one would talk about it at the table. Do you think we'd get DQed if like the 400 hands before the jackpot gets hit all checked to the river? Its kind of obvious :/

[/ QUOTE ]

Nothing in the rules against it...

[MicroBob]

I am assuming they still take the $0.50 out per hand even if you just check it down....but this might not be correct.


I think there is a very good chance party wouldn't pay up if you did it this way.


I think a better way would be to just play kinda normally. Kind of like the .5/1 tables that the SS gang sometimes gets going.

[TheTimeIsUp]

Let's just give this a shot, make table?

[Brain]

I don't think they could prove anything that way.
And I'm certainly willing to take my chances of being "disqualified" for a piece of 450K. It's not like they're going to arrest us or anything.

We'd just have to remember to make sure the hand got raked.

[Homer]

[ QUOTE ]
I am assuming they still take the $0.50 out per hand even if you just check it down....but this might not be correct.

[/ QUOTE ]

They only take 50 cents out if it's a rake hand, no?

They should pay up, but there very well could be trouble.

[MicroBob]

that said....I'll give it a shot for awhile if we can get a table.But I don't know how we get our own table without ANY strangers joining us.

get it together and i'll try it. why not.

[dogmeat]

Even if not a private table, we can take the shortest table, then have remaining players from 2+2 on the list - keep the game going, and agree to split if it hits.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Brain]

They don't have private jackpot tables. But I have one seat open...not anymore.

Just had a possible hand w/ 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif on the board. No luck though.

[Homer]

Am at 963576, sitting out.

[dogmeat]

I just joined ...963576 - only two players

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Homer]

Heh, so much for that.

[Brain]

There's an empty 3/6 table, #963571. Nothing empty at 2/4 though right now.

[Homer]

I'm sitting there too now.

[Alobar]

im there as well

[MicroBob]

Obviously it is likely there will be at least 1 or 2 outsiders not in on it who will play 'normally' (or their version of normally) so I'm not exacty sure how that should be handled.

[TheTimeIsUp]

that one is a lil too crowded, lets go with table #

963582

Order the tables from #, and it is 3rd from the top! Let's do it.

[dogmeat]

Hey

[Alobar]

we need to find an empty one, secronize (heh) our clocks and all hit it at the same time

[Homer]

I'm sitting out in three games now. I am a master multi-table sitter-outer.

[TheTimeIsUp]

Is 963582 the winner?

[Homer]

There are only two of us there. This is too hard and stuff.

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
They don't have private jackpot tables. But I have one seat open...not anymore.

Just had a possible hand w/ 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif on the board. No luck though.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wish_to_Win: ppl no prerases gets someone to limp in with small suited conectors
i raise OTB with KJs
Wish_to_Win: dam sponge,,,
Wish_to_Win: no listen
Wish_to_Win: its all about the BAD BEAT!!
Sponger15: why would limping w/ small suited connectors matter?
Sponger15: you trying to get 2 people with straight flushes to win
Wish_to_Win: ty
Wish_to_Win: macFLY!!
Wish_to_Win: geeezzzzzzzzz
Wish_to_Win: take him deck
Wish_to_Win: dang
haggismoffat: table will not win jp
Wish_to_Win: drum roll please for bad beat
Wish_to_Win: me thinks ur correct

God these people are annoying.

[dogmeat]

stay a while, others will leave

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[MicroBob]

do you mean 963582?

[TheTimeIsUp]

576 it is then??

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
stay a while, others will leave

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

im still there

[dogmeat]

/images/graemlins/spade.gif

[TheTimeIsUp]

So is it 582 or 576?? Let's decide.

[Brain]

I'm on the list.
1 open, 1 sit-out and an almost all in on 2/4 #958169

[TheTimeIsUp]

Ight, im ditchin 582 then.

[Alobar]

heh, we need a boiler room like that russ guy

[MicroBob]

I'm confused too. I'm on the wait list at 576 but don't know if that's right or not.

[Brain]

3 open on 958169

[TheTimeIsUp]

Yea, let's stick to 576, get rid of 582.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused too. I'm on the wait list at 576 but don't know if that's right or not.

[/ QUOTE ]

there are at least 4 of us there, so stay on the list

[TheTimeIsUp]

Don't confuse us Brian! /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TheTimeIsUp]

Yikes! 15 people on the wait list..I have been #1 for about 5-10 mins..

[Brain]

Sorry, just thought we could make a quick seat score. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[dogmeat]

If we hit, I wonder what they will think of that enormous list - LOL

Dogsneaky /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Brain]

I'm sure some of those people are on the list for any table. I'm #2. Who else is there? I don't know anybody else's handles.

[NoChance]

If you guys get a table that is almost full, maybe you all should just sit out until the others get mad and leave. Then those of you in the wait list can fill the gaps.

[MicroBob]

good call. if 4 or 5 players sat out the others might leave.

i'm 3rd on the list.

[NLfool]

nice idea

[TheTimeIsUp]

Yea what is everyone's names on there? Mine is obvious /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Alobar]

I am now sitting out, how many orbits is it before I get booted, that way I can make sure to pop back in and then pop back out

[TheTimeIsUp]

Ight I'm in and sitting out.

[Brain]

I'm in seat 8.

[MicroBob]

I'm in.....and also Out.

[Alobar]

weve got at least 4 then...and I think 2 of the peeps still playing are with us too. There is also an empty chair

[NLfool]

what would be the logistics of transferring funds?

[NoChance]

I dont understand open seats with 6 on the wait list

[dogmeat]

/images/graemlins/spade.gif

[hulk3rules]

I'm in seat 3

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
/images/graemlins/spade.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus, who are these tards, whenever Im a good game the table breaks with like 3 people sitting out. These 3 idiots are just happily going along with 5 sitting out

[Brain]

My thoughts exactly. When should we start playing?

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
My thoughts exactly. When should we start playing?

[/ QUOTE ]

fug it, there is seven of us, lets just go for it

[hulk3rules]

So we ready to go?

[Brain]

Good plan, moopykins.

[MicroBob]

Exactly....if these idiots hit it and most of us are sitting out we're all going to be pretty pissed.

[TheTimeIsUp]

Which seats are not occupied by us?

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
Good plan, moopykins.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, yeah dont ask about the nick...its a long story

[Brain]

You can tell me as we're drinking to our win. How's that? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
You can tell me as we're drinking to our win. How's that? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, sounds good

[MicroBob]

I just flopped quad Aces on my 5/10 BBJP table but no dice for the other players.
flop was 9AA so I was hoping someone had 99 and could catch another. no luck.

darn darn darn.

[TheTimeIsUp]

Hm...this isnt goin to plan, is it?

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
I just flopped quad Aces on my 5/10 BBJP table but no dice for the other players.
flop was 9AA so I was hoping someone had 99 and could catch another. no luck.

darn darn darn.

[/ QUOTE ]

heh, ive folded 77 twice now PF, that feels wierd

[MicroBob]

i don't know which one's are not us.
I had trip 3's with 32o in the BB and didn't know whether i should bet it or not.

right now the betting is getting capped and i don't know what's up with that.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
i don't know which one's are not us.
I had trip 3's with 32o in the BB and didn't know whether i should bet it or not.

right now the betting is getting capped and i don't know what's up with that.

[/ QUOTE ]

ask dogmeat, hes raising PF

[Brain]

I didn't think they were any of us and I had AK. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[hulk3rules]

I think seats 9 1 and 3 are not us, right?

[MicroBob]

well, since you just hit your straight and bet it i guess we're playing sorta-normally for now.

which one is dogmeat.

[NLfool]

I think you have to play sort of normally as it'll look to weird to party when you guys hit it.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
well, since you just hit your straight and bet it i guess we're playing sorta-normally for now.

which one is dogmeat.

[/ QUOTE ]

I never bet it, I flopped the nut stra8 and checked it down to the river, and then called a bet

[TheTimeIsUp]

I left guys, just didn't turn out how we wanted it to.

[bforester]

I'm on seat 8 at table 963576. Is this the right table?

edit: i'm actually at the 7 seat

[Brain]

I thought you said before that you were in the 3 seat?

We definitely have 6, 8, and 10. Who else?

[Alobar]

its the right table, but unless you are sharing a body with brian you arnt in seat 8 /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Brain]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm on seat 8 at table 963576. Is this the right table?

[/ QUOTE ]

Not unless you're sitting in my lap. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[cbfair]

Seat 5

[Eihli]

are there any non-2+2ers there?

[MicroBob]

yes, and they are really slow thinkers and don't seem to understand the concept of auto-posting.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
I thought you said before that you were in the 3 seat?

We definitely have 6, 8, and 10. Who else?

[/ QUOTE ]

seat 4 is dogmeat im pretty sure

[hulk3rules]

again- i'm in 3

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
again- i'm in 3

[/ QUOTE ]

so weve got T,8,7,6,4,3,2 for sure

so all but 2 seats

[GrannyMae]

GET A MOTEL ROOM YOU DEGENERATES!

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/h0/dizzy.gif

[bforester]

For now, I'm all for sharing the jackpot evenly. I would like to propose though, that we should just keep what is awarded to us. Whether, it be jackpot or table share. It will be less messy that way.

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
again- i'm in 3

[/ QUOTE ]

so weve got T,8,7,6,4,3,2 for sure

so all but 2 seats

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm in 5

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
For now, I'm all for sharing the jackpot evenly. I would like to propose though, that we should just keep what is awarded to us. Whether, it be jackpot or table share. It will be less messy that way.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im of the opinion that since we are all working together, we should all split it equally...sure it creates some problems, but I think its the fairest way

[billyjex]

well i'm on at the waiting list.

[hulk3rules]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
For now, I'm all for sharing the jackpot evenly. I would like to propose though, that we should just keep what is awarded to us. Whether, it be jackpot or table share. It will be less messy that way.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im of the opinion that since we are all working together, we should all split it equally...sure it creates some problems, but I think its the fairest way

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah- split it all up

[KowCiller]

This is the part where some dope emails Party and asks them if organizing an event like this would disqualify the jackpot... in typical MATCHBONUSEP fashion /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

KoW

[MicroBob]

agreed.

[bforester]

I am all for it then.

[dogmeat]

Zimbalives is ready to split any wins evenly. But having a couple not-2+2 at the table is making my play very wierd.

Dogmgeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Brain]

Definitely.

I liked the checkdown of AA, KK, and my K /images/graemlins/spade.gifQ /images/graemlins/spade.gif. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
Zimbalives is ready to split any wins evenly. But having a couple not-2+2 at the table is making my play very wierd.

Dogmgeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

weve got them all but seat 1 and 9

and incase anyone forgets the pot has to be raked to qualify, so if youve got a qualifying hand raise it up on the river

[TheTimeIsUp]

I am in seat 1 now

[Brain]

Boy, are my 2/4 PT stats gonna be messed up after this. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Alobar]

woot!!! all of them but seat 9 now

[dogmeat]

Boy, we are running a hell of a game for Dream in seat 9

Nobody bets and I can't protect my hands..............

I may not be able to take this much longer, giving up hands to her.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Alobar]

hehe

you can purge this table from pokertracker easily enough tho....hell you can just delete this table file from your HH folder

[NLfool]

oh god it's frigtening how fun playing every possible straight flush can be. Up $47 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[bforester]

It looks like we have 9 out of the 10 seats. Can someone put up a list of starting hands that should be played?

[Alobar]

shes so clueless she has no idea anyway

if she cathces on we can all just sit out till she leaves

[TheTimeIsUp]

Are you sure we are on seat 4??

[MicroBob]

you can purge tables from p-tracker?
i'll have to look into that.

my p-tracker databases are getting all messed up with my data-mining attempts.

[Zetack]

You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[KowCiller]

Hahaha.. I'm in the table watching this debacle. Too funny :-)

KoW

[dogmeat]

Yeah, and we gave her all that cash - she may never leave

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[NoChance]

I am also on the list now. Had some work to finish up.

[Michael Davis]

Honestly, offsuit high cards should be dropped, they're not worth the time and they hit very infrequently.

-Michael

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
Are you sure we are on seat 4??

[/ QUOTE ]

seat 4 is dogmeat

[MicroBob]

exactly....i just folded AKo PF.

[dogmeat]

ST flush draws, pocketpairs - 8 or higher

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[OldLearner]

[ QUOTE ]
has at least one card eight or higher

[/ QUOTE ]

no no no

PP's 8 or higher and 2 suited cards that can BOTH be used at the same time to make a str8 flush.

BOTH hole cards must be used to qualify

[cbfair]

It's strange to check down with threes full of tens.

[bforester]

How many gaps on the straight flush draw?

[Brain]

You can make quad 8s with your hole card as your kicker.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not playing of suit 8s or higher for it to hit the JP youd have to have 3 of your cards fall, and then runner runner str8 flush, and have your kicker play....the odds of all that happening are prolly in the tens of millions to 1

[cbfair]

guess I shoulda folded 3s PF?

[MicroBob]

10 players seated.
13 on waiting list.
pot-avg $13.

[OldLearner]

this is true.....as long as your kicker is higher than anything else on the board...

[hulk3rules]

[ QUOTE ]
You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

No no no. Hands like A2 and and 92 can't win, because if you hit 4 of a kind you still have to play both your whole cards to qualify

[dogmeat]

Dogtired

[bforester]

Seat 9 is one of us?

[Alobar]

im also playing anything I think can win unimproved in a checkdown fest ;P

[rusty JEDI]

what table you guys on?

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
Seat 9 is one of us?

[/ QUOTE ]

nope seat 9 is the only one who hasnt been assimilated by the borg

[TheTimeIsUp]

Just had 87 hearts and the flop was JThearts..close

[MicroBob]

no, seat 9 is our lone carry-over. kind clueless.

table 576 2/4

[dogmeat]

/images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Zetack]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

No no no. Hands like A2 and and 92 can't win, because if you hit 4 of a kind you still have to play both your whole cards to qualify

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmm, you could have a board of AAA22 and you'd have a qualifying hand....course you couldn't have a straight flush on that board...

It seems to me you should play every hand that can possibly get there, can anybody figure out what hands that actually is?

--Zetack

[Alobar]

963576

[KowCiller]

Hahaha.. DreamRose probably thinks she's dreaming... She obviously hasn't caught on yet. But then again, she shouldn't argue... she's making a killing. Good luck getting her off the table /images/graemlins/wink.gif

KoW

[MicroBob]

this is actually kinda tough.

I'm multi-tabling and I'm just not used to changing gears on what hands to play.

I almost accidentally raised PF a couple times with AA, QQ, AKo, etc. Had to hurry to un-check the auto-thingee.

[Alobar]

do we have number 1 on the waiting list? we could all sit out till seat 9 leaves

[billyjex]

Well i didn't realize putting myself on a waiting list for another table took myself off this one.

I got a SF on a badbeat table earlier, but there was no possible way for any qualifying hand to be beat/won.

[NoChance]

I've talked to dealers at Canterbury and the only hand that cant win a jackpot is 32o. Even if you hit quad 2s, the 3 could never play. ALL other hands are possible.

Even 42o if the flop comes 22233 and your opponent has 33.

[Alobar]

party is quad 88s beaten tho, not just quads

[Brain]

[ QUOTE ]
I've talked to dealers at Canterbury and the only hand that cant win a jackpot is 32o. Even if you hit quad 2s, the 3 could never play. ALL other hands are possible.

Even 42o if the flop comes 22233 and your opponent has 33.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nope, minimum hand at Party is quad 8s.

[KowCiller]

ActionAsian is #1 on the list... not sure if they are 2+2 or not?

KoW

[NoChance]

Good point. Forgot about that.

[Flawed]

isnt it 8's or better?

If theres 9 of you why dont you all sit out till dream leaves and another 2+2er joins

[Pokeraddict]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

No no no. Hands like A2 and and 92 can't win, because if you hit 4 of a kind you still have to play both your whole cards to qualify

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmm, you could have a board of AAA22 and you'd have a qualifying hand....course you couldn't have a straight flush on that board...

It seems to me you should play every hand that can possibly get there, can anybody figure out what hands that actually is?

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh, explain to me how A2 is going to get bad beat here? only A2s should be flopped here, if you have A2 into that window what will beat you? Thus no bad BEAT

[rusty JEDI]

[ QUOTE ]
do we have number 1 on the waiting list? we could all sit out till seat 9 leaves

[/ QUOTE ]


im 12th on the waitlist

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
isnt it 8's or better?

If theres 9 of you why dont you all sit out till dream leaves and another 2+2er joins

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah lets do this

[NoChance]

I am 4th on the wait list

[Alobar]

sit out you boobs /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Flawed]

and then just play the quality JP hands you guys would fly through hands

suited connecters
1 gappers
PP 8 or better
and A8+
seem like good hands

[TheTimeIsUp]

Everyone is begging to get in..this is hillarious

[MicroBob]

playing A8+ is a waste.

just PP 88+ and suited-connectors thru 2-gappers (or 3-gappers).

[Eihli]

if this link gets emailed to party, what happens?

[liquidboss]

At least it hasn't hit yet so I can win it when I get home from work.

[OldLearner]

If you guys win it and PP reviews the HH's, I think they'll bust you.

[ QUOTE ]
#1106294245: brianmk24 wins $7 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of fours.

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
#1106296865: bphelon007 wins $8 from the main pot with a flush, jack high.

[/ QUOTE ]

Then there's the only non 2+2'er

[ QUOTE ]
#1106300192: DreamRose311 wins $31 from the main pot with a flush, king high.

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Brain]

Ugh, I am getting destroyed. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Zetack]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
You call Pf with any hand that has at least one card eight or higher plus any two suited cards 3 gapped or smaller. Then nobody bets again in the hand unless you've made quad eights or better or a straight flush.

Right?

I haven't figured out how many hands that ought to be but it looks like not as many hands are being played as I would expect.

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

No no no. Hands like A2 and and 92 can't win, because if you hit 4 of a kind you still have to play both your whole cards to qualify

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmm, you could have a board of AAA22 and you'd have a qualifying hand....course you couldn't have a straight flush on that board...

It seems to me you should play every hand that can possibly get there, can anybody figure out what hands that actually is?

--Zetack

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh, explain to me how A2 is going to get bad beat here? only A2s should be flopped here, if you have A2 into that window what will beat you? Thus no bad BEAT

[/ QUOTE ]

Sheesh, I said that.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

You guys will never see any money. No way in hell. I've been watching for 5 minutes, and I don't care how bad support is, there's no way you're getting through clean.

[OldLearner]

LOL.....Dreamrose wont leave this table

She thinks she's died and gone to heaven against this crew. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Alobar]

are 2 and 9 us?

[liquidboss]

[ QUOTE ]
If you guys win it and PP reviews the HH's, I think they'll bust you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I'm not sure all this work is going to pay off. Even if someone doesn't report this thread the chances are slim you will get to keep it. I'm sure Party will review all of these hand histories on a pay out of hundreds of thousands to see if there is any collusion. Of course, this is Party support we are talking about... maybe they won't figure it out... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MicroBob]

good question.

[Michael Davis]

I am not going to take part in this because it is unethical, but if you are going to do it, you can't have people chatting BS. And if you actually hit, you should definitely sit around for awhile and play for real.

-Michael

[Pokeraddict]

Agreed, i would not touch this game with a 10 foot pole, you hit it, party keeps it and jackpot drops. Not like it will get hit anyway here.

[OldLearner]

Hmmmm.....this looks like.....could it be....ZERORAKE.com??

[Fraubump]

I can't find the table: none of them start with 9. Was just going to watch for fun. It's 2/4?

[Michael Davis]

yeah, you guys are really effing this up.

[Flawed]

[ QUOTE ]
playing A8+ is a waste.

just PP 88+ and suited-connectors thru 2-gappers (or 3-gappers).

[/ QUOTE ]

thinking about heres the order
pocket pairs 88+
suited conectors
1 gappers
2 gappers
3 gappers and A8+
K8+

[KowCiller]

Funniest part of this whole situation is that the fish around the other party tables are swimming away unscathed because the sharks are all chasing a wild goose /images/graemlins/grin.gif

KoW

[Alobar]

as long as no one says anything at the table I think weve got a shot

[Fraubump]

nevermind--didn't realize JP tables were under separate header

[MicroBob]

A8+ and K8+ is pretty worthless.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
A8+ and K8+ is pretty worthless.

[/ QUOTE ]

not entirely....they win a fair amount if you can get them checked to the river /images/graemlins/smile.gif

but yeah as far as JP go, they are worse odds than the lotto

[OldLearner]

You guys should be cursing each other down to make your chat look more like a REAL Party table

[Michael Davis]

Without chatting, I think there was about a 50% chance of you guys keeping the money if hit. Now, I think you are 4-1 against or worse. It is real easy to prove impropriety when you chat about it.

-Michael

[dogmeat]

rake for an hour. Maybe we need to bet a little.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[MicroBob]

ummm....people talk about the jackpot at the JP tables all the time.

[ZeeJustin]

Seems like extremely blatant collusion to me.

[Michael Davis]

Too late /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[OldLearner]

LOL....your avg pot is 5 bucks.

All the other 2/4 tables are over 20 bucks.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
Without chatting, I think there was about a 50% chance of you guys keeping the money if hit. Now, I think you are 4-1 against or worse. It is real easy to prove impropriety when you chat about it.

-Michael

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the biggest problem from a DQ standpoint, is they dont know who is in on it and who isnt, they cant prove the whole table is. party is full of clueless tards so I think it would be to hard to tell

[KowCiller]

[ QUOTE ]
party is full of clueless tards so I think it would be to hard to tell

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL Lovin' it!

KoW

[Michael Davis]

It would be real easy to look at someone and see that they raise AA 99% of the time they get it and they have limped six times with big pocket pairs.

-Michael

[Pokeraddict]

Until they find the soon to be 50 page thread in zoo talking about it and who is who, this is dumb and how in the world are you going to split this if it hits and you get paid? I have $1500 at party and the max transfer to anyone is $400 for me. Is that the system max for all? If so this is a mess, and after they pay you are you going to go transfer $400 a day forever? that will never send a reg flag.

[MicroBob]

some people transfer money via their neteller accounts.
what a novel idea.

fwiw - i don't think it's going to work either....but i'm having fun anyway.

[Flawed]

why would they split it let who wins win losers still get 10k+

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
are you going to go transfer $400 a day forever? that will never send a reg flag.

[/ QUOTE ]

neteller

[Brain]

Do we have next on the list? I'm good for another 15-20 minutes and then I gotta sack out.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
some people transfer money via their neteller accounts.
what a novel idea.

fwiw - i don't think it's going to work either....but i'm having fun anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]


hey, im up $6 too /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Fraubump]

One danger here: you could get your accounts banned, which might be a real screwing to those with affiliate action happening.

[MicroBob]

oh yeah?? bite me, i'm down $16

[Thythe]

Just curious if you guys have even had quad 8's or better period, let alone beaten at this table yet? I'm watching, it's very entertaining.

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
some people transfer money via their neteller accounts.
what a novel idea.

fwiw - i don't think it's going to work either....but i'm having fun anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]


hey, im up $6 too /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Not bad. I'm up $12.

Rose was the big winner, I have 89 hands, $100 profit. bet she hated to go..

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
some people transfer money via their neteller accounts.
what a novel idea.

fwiw - i don't think it's going to work either....but i'm having fun anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]


hey, im up $6 too /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Not bad. I'm up $12.

Rose was the big winner, I have 89 hands, $100 profit. bet she hated to go..

[/ QUOTE ]

the funny thing is she played nearly as bad as all of us are

[mosta]

sweet, I just got to tag a bunch of 2+2'ers in my notes...

good luck.

[MicroBob]

i had quad A's on my other BBJP table.

otherwise, i don't think any qualifiers have been shown....hope someone would have mentioned it if they had it.


sombody just be tthe river with TJQd on the board but nobody called it. no idea if they actually had anything though.

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
some people transfer money via their neteller accounts.
what a novel idea.

fwiw - i don't think it's going to work either....but i'm having fun anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]


hey, im up $6 too /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Not bad. I'm up $12.

Rose was the big winner, I have 89 hands, $100 profit. bet she hated to go..

[/ QUOTE ]

the funny thing is she played nearly as bad as all of us are

[/ QUOTE ]

47.67 VP$IP 2.33 PFR

[Alobar]

what were her post flop numbers...I bet she had an aggression factor of like .3

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
what were her post flop numbers...I bet she had an aggression factor of like .3

[/ QUOTE ]

3.09 w/o pf which makes sense against this table.

[MicroBob]

the idea is to check it down UNLESS we have a JP hand.

why is seat 4 betting the river?

[bforester]

i dont think he's part of the collective

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
what were her post flop numbers...I bet she had an aggression factor of like .3

[/ QUOTE ]

3.09 w/o pf which makes sense against this table.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow, remember her checking down all kinds of stuff that she should have bet. course I guess she never had the opportunity to just call so that would up her AF

[sthief09]

as far as dividing the money evenly goes, I think it might be best to just leave it as is. there are a lot of really dishonest people out there, and even honest ones can become dishonest when $200k or $100k or whatever it is, is suddenly in their accounts. further, you have no recourse as (1) you can't tell Party, and (2) you don't know the guy's name, address, or anything else. for that reason, I think it's probably best to just let everyone keep it. if 5 players at the table decide to keep the jackpot, and 5 decide to share, this thing is majorly -EV for those who are being honest about it. if you just decided to keep your individual portions, you'd have the same EV as if you decided to split it up.

[NoChance]

I hate folding pocket 5s in the SB!

[MicroBob]

yeah. i had considered most of thief's ideas about this.
obviously the odds that this would actually become an issue are slim but we really should come to some sort of an agreement.


if the 'other' players at the table get $10k or whatever then I think I could live with that.

up to you guys though if you still would prefer to try to split it.



another factor is if party somehow got the neteller records then tehy copuld conceiveably find a way to use that against us as well. keeping the money for ourselves might indeed be the wiser option for a variety of reasons.

[rusty JEDI]

seat 2 has bet several rivers aswell

[bforester]

i've stated that i'd prefer not to split. same ev but longer cycle

[cbfair]

not to mention it significantly reduces the potential for charges of collusion, but doesn't eliminate it.

Not at all.

[Brain]

Can I straddle? I'm about ready to head out. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Alobar]

meh, ill take the chance...prolly niave of me but I think the odds are good that the 2 people who get the bundle of the jackpot would be trustworthy. I dont know everyone at this table, but I know a few of them well enough to believe it would happen.

heh, kinda funny that I have no problem "cheating" party, but wouldnt even dream of not sending the others the money if I was the one that won

[MrX]

Why am I watching this so intensely??

[billyjex]

i bet the rivers because i have the absolute nuts. PP might be curious if i weren't to bet the river when i hit a full house would they?

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
I hate folding pocket 5s in the SB!

[/ QUOTE ]

dood, call that shizit! its half a bet and youll get 5 cards to spike a set, and win unimproved a percentage of the time

[billyjex]

forgot to add,
i'm not trying to be a dick and steal the pot. i have the best hand.

[NoChance]

I don't care either way. I am happy to split but also happy just to get a table share. Wouldn't be playing unless table share was worth it anyway.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
forgot to add,
i'm not trying to be a dick and steal the pot. i have the best hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wish I woulda known that before I called you /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MicroBob]

i thought we were only playing if it was a JP eligible hand.

[billyjex]

ok, i won't bet the river anymore.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
i thought we were only playing if it was a JP eligible hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont see why we cant play any hand, just so long as we arnt betting it at any point

[MicroBob]

well....in that case i'll stop folding my AKo and 55 in SB, etc.

[bforester]

What about the person who hits the big one? If he is a US resident, Uncle Sam would want his share. Therefore, he should be entitled to more that even share.

[Alobar]

[ QUOTE ]
What about the person who hits the big one? If he is a US resident, Uncle Sam would want his share. Therefore, he should be entitled to more that even share.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah good point, obviously that would need to be addressed. Does party or neteller file anything witht he US gov tho?

[MicroBob]

No.
It's up to you to declare your taxes.

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What about the person who hits the big one? If he is a US resident, Uncle Sam would want his share. Therefore, he should be entitled to more that even share.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah good point, obviously that would need to be addressed. Does party or neteller file anything witht he US gov tho?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think they do but that's way too much cash to try and hide.

[NoChance]

I have about 15 minutes left if anyone wants on the list.

[Brain]

Last orbit, I promise.

[justin D]

$7 average pot. Nice!

[bforester]

That is the thing. I would want to declare a big jackpot. Therefore, I would want more than even share.

[cbfair]

me too, last orbit after the button passes me. My fingers are crossed.

[MicroBob]

if we split it via neteller before it hits anyone's bank accounts then we all have the same tax obligations....because from our bank records it all looks like we won the same amount.

[NoChance]

[ QUOTE ]
if we split it via neteller before it hits anyone's bank accounts then we all have the same tax obligations....because from our bank records it all looks like we won the same amount.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's how I had it in my mind.

[cbfair]

good point. If I hit it, I'll first talk to a CPA then split it if I get the OK.

[cbfair]

[ QUOTE ]
good point. If I hit it, I'll first talk to a CPA then split it if I get the OK.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll still split but only after the IRS gets their piece.

[Brain]

Is a 2+2er next on the list?

[MicroBob]

There is a very good chance that your CPA will have no clue about this. He'll give some sort of idea.....but won't understand that party is off-shore and that they don't report to the IRS.

most CPA's are pretty clueless on this online-poker stuff.

[cbfair]

I'm ready too. Who's next?

[hoyaboy1]

i'm next

[hoyaboy1]

yuck, we have a better