A little help

[Metnut]

Hi all, I've been reading this forum for a while but this is my first post. I've hit a bit of a bad run lately, so I'm just trying to see if I am misplaying stuff in certain situations. If anyone here recognizes me and has seen me play and can offer advice, by all means go ahead. Anyway the two hands I'm gonna post are both semi-bubble hands. I'm just curious as to how you guys play these hands, and whether or not I was over-aggresive with them. I still can't seem to convince myself that folding in either situation is the right move. Anyway, both hands are from the same 105+9 turbo sng on stars, and both hands are in the 200/400 round. Let me know what you think.

First hand:
*********** # 19 **************
PokerStars Game #800840198: Tournament #3157016, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2004/10/26 - 01:51:02 (ET)
Table '3157016 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: fladgate (840 in chips)
Seat 2: Metnut (3550 in chips)
Seat 4: jonrasool (870 in chips)
Seat 6: lude74 (1600 in chips)
Seat 7: chad2004 (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: Insureguy6 (4290 in chips)
Seat 9: flowbee (720 in chips)
fladgate: posts the ante 25
Metnut: posts the ante 25
jonrasool: posts the ante 25
lude74: posts the ante 25
chad2004: posts the ante 25
Insureguy6: posts the ante 25
flowbee: posts the ante 25
chad2004: posts small blind 200
Insureguy6: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Metnut [6h 6c]
flowbee: folds
fladgate: folds
Metnut: raises 3125 to 3525 and is all-in
jonrasool: calls 845 and is all-in
lude74: folds
chad2004: folds
Insureguy6: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 5s Tc]
*** TURN *** [Ad 5s Tc] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 5s Tc 3s] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Metnut: shows [6h 6c] (a pair of Sixes)
jonrasool: shows [As 7h] (a pair of Aces)
jonrasool collected 2465 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2465 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 5s Tc 3s 2s]
Seat 1: fladgate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Metnut showed [6h 6c] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: jonrasool showed [As 7h] and won (2465) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: lude74 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: chad2004 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Insureguy6 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: flowbee folded before Flop (didn't bet)

This next hand follows immediately after, can I really fold here with the blind coming?

*********** # 17 **************
PokerStars Game #800841632: Tournament #3157016, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2004/10/26 - 01:51:41 (ET)
Table '3157016 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: fladgate (815 in chips)
Seat 2: Metnut (2680 in chips)
Seat 4: jonrasool (2465 in chips)
Seat 6: lude74 (1575 in chips)
Seat 7: chad2004 (1405 in chips)
Seat 8: Insureguy6 (3865 in chips)
Seat 9: flowbee (695 in chips)
fladgate: posts the ante 25
Metnut: posts the ante 25
jonrasool: posts the ante 25
lude74: posts the ante 25
chad2004: posts the ante 25
Insureguy6: posts the ante 25
flowbee: posts the ante 25
Insureguy6: posts small blind 200
flowbee: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Metnut [Ad 7s]
fladgate: folds
Metnut: raises 2255 to 2655 and is all-in
jonrasool: folds
lude74: folds
chad2004: folds
Insureguy6: calls 2455
flowbee: calls 270 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 9s]
jonrasool said, "very nice call"
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 9s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qh 9s 8d] [4d]
lude74 said, "nice"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Insureguy6: shows [Ah Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
Metnut: shows [Ad 7s] (a pair of Queens)
Insureguy6 collected 3970 from side pot
flowbee: shows [3c Jc] (a pair of Queens)
Insureguy6 collected 2185 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6155 Main pot 2185. Side pot 3970. | Rake 0
Board [Qd Qh 9s 8d 4d]
Seat 1: fladgate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Metnut showed [Ad 7s] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: jonrasool folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lude74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: chad2004 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Insureguy6 (small blind) showed [Ah Qc] and won (6155) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 9: flowbee (big blind) showed [3c Jc] and lost with a pair of Queens


I feel like I pissed away a huge stack here, but with the blinds this big, what else can I do? Wait for AJ/AQ or better? Raise 3XBB and fold to the inevitable all-reraise? Help!

[tigerite]

Honestly I'd fold both, because you're out of position to play them 7-handed.

[fujowpai]

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Eric

[luvrhino]

I limp in with the 66, hoping to turn a set. If i don't, i fold to any pressure. The theory being that sets are lovely and your opp doesn't see them coming, otherwise you're not out a lot. If jonrasool raises All-in, i call, putting him on two overcards and it won't cost too much more to call.

The second hand i just fold. I don't care for Axo, unless shorthanded/shortstacked.

By going All-in on these hands, you stand to be called only by hands that are better than yours.

[sofere]

I agree with the push with 66. You'll have the advantage in any hand except higher pockets and as 2nd in stack size you have a lot of fold equity. Good chance to steal blinds. The fact that you lost the race is just bad luck.

I don't like the push with A7 from EP. For one thing, you went all in in the previous hand which loses a lot of fold equity. Second, you're gonna be a dog in most cases if anyone calls. I'd might push from button, but easy fold from EP.

JMO.

[Metnut]

Here's the thing about the second push, in order to decide whether or not its correct to make a move there, you need to basically weight whether or not it'll be better to hope to catch a hand to call with in the BB or SB or make a move with about 1600-1700 left in late position after you take the blind hit plus some more antes. Also after the blinds hit, there will probably still be 5-6 players left and the short stacks will be going allin in front of you, thus taking away any folding equity that you would have and you would probably be forced to make a desperation steal with about 1600 left in early position again (only 5 handed though). Isn't there more folding equity+chance of winning the hand with an A7 early position push with still a decent stack then waiting till being semi-short and making the push? I'm still leaning toward the A7 push being the better idea, but I'd love to be convinced otherwise, cause I find myself in these situations too often without much confidence.

[Metnut]

Anyone else?

[wjmooner]

A7 UTG at a 7 handed table is a bad push unless severely shortstacked. You weren't shortstacked. You were 2nd. Even if you lose all 600 in blinds you still have 2000 in chips with the bb at 400 and plenty of folding equity, plus more time to wait for a better hand to push in with.

This is just a bad push.

The 66 push is aggressive and fine at a turbo.

WJ

[kurosh]

When he's second in chips, he should push with a mid PP in MP?? The blinds aren't THAT big compared to his stack yet. The chip leader has yet to act too. I don't like this at all. If he gets called it's a race or he's dominated.