Official Game 3 Red Sox-Cardinals Thread

[Clarkmeister]

Bout time for you chowderheads to go on a nice little losing streak. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

OTOH, TLR's teams never, but never, come back from early series deficits. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[challenger84]

<---- Fear not, my lucky location will bring us back from the depths once again.

[MrGo]

Sorry to say but I just think it's Boston's year. After committing 8 errors and still winning both games, I don't see STL coming back. Never know though...been wrong before.

[nolanfan34]

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Never know though...been wrong before.

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As evidenced by your avatar.

[JinX11]

I'll make you a deal: we get this year, you guys can have next. What do ya think? This seems fair.

[MrGo]

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Never know though...been wrong before.

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As evidenced by your avatar.

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What are you talking about? I've had this avatar since I joined 2+2!!!

[challenger84]

Eh, we already have 9. I think I'll just go ahead and take this year because I'm impatient.

[Zeno]

This game is huge and for more than a few reasons. But I think the main one is Pedro. This is his time to shine or sink, time to make history or fizzle, time to show he can be the best in a hostile situation or a mind addled wimp. If he can pitch a near perfect game his spot in MLB history is assured. He needs to go at least 7 full innings and give up say, 2 runs max, and that should seal the deal. Does Pedro understand the significance of all this? After all, Perez of the Dodgers held the Cardnials scoreless.


Red Sox up 3-0 after tonight and no team has every come back from......

[kyro]

i have this bad feeling pedro is going to get shelled tonight. i don't know why. i should stop being so pessimistic

[sublime]

i have this bad feeling pedro is going to get shelled tonight. i don't know why. i should stop being so pessimistic

it is pessimistic
fear not, my petey will come thru for you /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ThaSaltCracka]

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fear not, my petey will come thru for you

[/ QUOTE ] Are you hitting on him?

[sublime]

jealous? /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[ThaSaltCracka]

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jealous? /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[nolanfan34]

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it is pessimistic
fear not, my petey will come thru for you /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Based on the weather report, there may not even be a game at all tonight. Which certainly benefits Pedro, giving him another day of rest. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[sublime]

I think giving pedro the extra day of rest isnt that important. what is important is the fact that if this game gets rained out, it will eliminate the travel day (rest) and make the rest of the series on consecutive days. this benifits the sox, due to thier ability to wear down opposing starting pitchers and get into the bullpen.

[Joe Tall]

Bout time for you chowderheads to go on a nice little losing streak

It's chowdahed, not that long winded version you have have, get it right.

Interesting match up tonight, a former Red Sox cast off pitching against his old team. Suppan is hot, we'll see if he can keep it up as we all know (or should) how Pedro does it on extra rest.

Go Sox!
-JT

[nolanfan34]

Bump, anyone actually in the St. Louis area who can provide a weather report?

[sublime]

last i heard it was raining steadily and they expected delays, but the game "should" be played.

[Joe Tall]

Bump, anyone actually in the St. Louis area who can provide a weather report?

It's raining real good right now, they just pulled the tarp off the infield only to dump the extra water into the outfield and then put the tarp of the infield again.

Go Sox!
-JT

[Joe Tall]

I'm taking off to watch the game, so enjoy boys!

Go Pedro!

GO SOX!
-JT

[nolanfan34]

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I'm taking off to watch the game, so enjoy boys!

Go Pedro!

GO SOX!
-JT

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Had to love FOX opening with the 1986, up 2-0, clips.

What do people think about Jeanne Zelasko? She doesn't bug me too much, although others have disagreed.

[sublime]

is that organist a StL staple?

[Mars357]

This song is starting to get on my nerves....

[sublime]

i feel like i am at a circus

[Mars357]

A Circus smells MUCH better than St. Louis!!!!

[Boris]

So is the crowd in all the goofy halloween costumes.

Also the national anthem singer has a nice voice, unlike Steve Tyler and James Taylor.

[nolanfan34]

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is that organist a StL staple?

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I think yes.

And Boston, take note - here's someone who can sing the anthem. (OK, James Taylor was pretty cool)

[nolanfan34]

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Also the national anthem singer has a nice voice, unlike Steve Tyler and James Taylor.

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Damn, beat me to the punch. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[mmbt0ne]

Random question. How come when everyone in the stands takes off their hats, the military on the field don't have to remove theirs? I just realized that I've never seen a serviceman take his hat off for the anthem.

[Dynasty]

I posted this in two other threads and I'm posting it here to just before the game starts.


It seems all Cardinal fans are talking about this big home field advantage of theirs. So, I looked up the regualar seaon sats to see how much merit it has.

Cardinals:
Regular Season: 105-57 .648
Home: 53-28 .654
Away: .642

Based on the regular season, the Cardinals don't appear to play any better at home than they do on the road.

[sublime]

So is the crowd in all the goofy halloween costumes.

i love the midwest /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[sublime]

why does jeff suppan have A-1 sauce in his pocket?


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[Dynasty]

Looks like the umpire pissed off Manny to the detriment of the Cardinals.

[sublime]

why does jeff suppan have A-1 sauce in his pocket?

because he is FRESH MEAT!!!!

1-0

[craig r]

I can't help but think that you are not having a little fun at challenger's expense /images/graemlins/grin.gif

craig

[mikech]

Does anyone else really dislike the camera angle? Couldn't they have positioned it lower? It's really difficult to judge how high/low the pitches are.

[Toro]

Thank you Red Sox. Had a bad day at Foxwoods yesterday. So before going down again today I stopped to get a coffee at Honeydew and this guy was selling Red Sox American league champs Tshirts.

I said give me one, maybe it'll bring me luck. And it did to the tune of $1700 in the NL cash game. Go Sox.

[DCIAce]

Pedro has no control tonight..

c'mon Edmonds!

(notably, I don't particularly like either team, but bet on St Louis at +140. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif )

[mikech]

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Does anyone else really dislike the camera angle? Couldn't they have positioned it lower? It's really difficult to judge how high/low the pitches are.

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Wow, it's like they read my post! Edmonds at-bat they switched to a more level camera angle, good job Fox.

[sublime]

McCarver:


"Its his weakness and his strenght"

Yogi who? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Dynasty]

Manny- what a defensive stud. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Toro]

Manny gets my vote for a gold glove. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[craig r]

He is the game so far. 1 run scored and 1 run stopped!!

[DCIAce]

Ball wasn't hit anywhere near deep enough for Walker to tag up on.. That's showing absolutely no respect to Manny, I mean, I could probably throw his ass out from there. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[sublime]

Manny- what a defensive stud.

he actually made our point, can be horrible then make a great throw

welcome to mannyville /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[sublime]

Ball wasn't hit anywhere near deep enough for Walker to tag up on.. That's showing absolutely no respect to Manny, I mean, I could probably throw his ass out from there.

have you seen walkers orange cleats? dude, they give him mad hops

[craig r]

what was that call on bellhorn? did they call it a strike or are they saying he went around? either way...

[Toro]

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what was that call on bellhorn? did they call it a strike or are they saying he went around? either way...

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The homeplate ump is missing a good game. Even my wife who knows less than nothing about baseball said why are they calling the same pitch a strike for suppan a ball for Pedro.

[Tyler Durden]

What was the deal with Pedro smacking Larry Walker in the ass w/ his glove? How come there was no reaction by Walker? Shouldn't that be enough to start a brawl?

Or was it good-natured b/c the two were teammates in Montreal. They were, weren't they?

[Lazymeatball]

right, very unclear on that bellhorn third strike.
And did anyone else see Pedro give that love tap with his glove to some Cardinal after the first inning? are they friendly, or is he just a jerk?

[Clarkmeister]

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Ball wasn't hit anywhere near deep enough for Walker to tag up on.. That's showing absolutely no respect to Manny, I mean, I could probably throw his ass out from there. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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I think he had to tag there. What do you think Sanders' chances of getting a hit there against Pedro are? 20%? I'd bet that even on a routine throwout like that one, Walker makes the plate safely more than 20% against ManRam.

[Dynasty]

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And did anyone else see Pedro give that love tap with his glove to some Cardinal after the first inning? are they friendly, or is he just a jerk?

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Pedro Martinez and Larry Walker were teammates in Montreal. I'm sure it was just a friendly gesture based simply on Walker's non-reaction.

[sublime]

I think he had to tag there. What do you think Sanders' chances of getting a hit there against Pedro are? 20%? I'd bet that even on a routine throwout like that one, Walker makes the plate safely more than 20% against ManRam.

i was thinking the same thing while sanders was at bat the next inning

[DCIAce]

I actually didn't think of that.. Gets lost in the Renteria-Walker-Pujols-Rolen-Edmonds stretch that the Cardinals really don't have any other bats.

Also, Suppan can't walk Cabrera there.. gotta throw a strike and try to avoid Manny.

[Dynasty]

Wow...that was a disasterous running play by Suppan.

[DCIAce]

Wow, Nixon took a tough fall.

Alright, midpost.. what the hell just happened there??? They conceded the run to Suppan, and he just stops, then gets picked off?

[Toro]

Ortiz will also get my vote for a gold glove. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[nolanfan34]

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Wow...that was a disasterous running play by Suppan.

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Good lord.

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I think the Cards have money on the Sox too.

[Clarkmeister]

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Wow...that was a disasterous running play by Suppan.

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He did it *twice* against LA in Game 4 too.

[Dynasty]

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Ortiz will also get my vote for a gold glove. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Manny and Ortiz may not have great gloves. But, they're showing off their accurate arms tonight.

[Boris]

With his base running skills he'll fit right in.

[goofball]

i'm hard pressed to think of a bigger mental mistake in the world series

becasue of him they had

man on second, behind by 1, 2 outs

instead of

man on third, tie game, 1 out

[craig r]

How does a pitcher of all people not listen to the 3rd base coach?

craig

[DCIAce]

Right. Other than being incredibly stupid, it cost the Cardinals big.

Curious how he'll come out afterwards, though.. will it be 1) rattled 2) make up for his idiocy by coming out strong. ...time will tell. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[mikech]

Right now, Cardinals fans must feel like Sox fans have felt in the past...or as Casey Stengel said of the '62 Mets: "Can't anybody here play this game??"

side note: no one else finds it irritating how Fox seems to be randomly switching between the two centerfield camera angles?

[craig r]

did pedro argue that call?

[craig r]

..

[Dynasty]

Pedro's pitch count has been saved by the Red Sox two big throw-em-out double plays. Without those, I think Pedro's count would really be getting up there.

Suppan's count is higher than I expected.

Pitch count through four innings:

Pedro: 63
Suppan: 70

[vulturesrow]

Any one have the stats on how many 2-out runs the Sox have scored this postseason?

[sublime]

Suppan's count is higher than I expected.

I agree, somehow the sox quitely make a pitcher throw a ton.

[Toro]

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did pedro argue that call?

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I don't think so. It was a nasty curve ball and I think he told the ump that that shiit wasn't fair.

[Dynasty]

The wet field is the reason Walker couldn't get that Damon double. Walker seemed concerned about slipping.

[sublime]

yeah he seemed to have a smile on his face


is it me or did FOX miss the first couple of pitches in the top of the inning?

[daryn]

yeah, pedro is back baby.


2-0 and like mcdonald's i'm lovin' it.

[Dynasty]

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Any one have the stats on how many 2-out runs the Sox have scored this postseason?

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The commentators just said 9 of the 19 Red Sox World Series runs were with two out. I can't help with ALDS and ALCS runs.

Here's something else I've noticed. A lot of these two-out runs start with two outs and nobody on base. Then, the Red Sox string together several hits.

[sublime]

Jeff "A-1 sauce" Suppan

[sublime]

WHY WHY WHY do we have to meet larry walkers family?

[Clarkmeister]

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WHY WHY WHY do we have to meet larry walkers family?

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They are the only people related to the Cardinal organization to show up.

[daryn]

3-0 woot.

manny is far from a liability.

[nolanfan34]

Clark, the avatar is not working!! /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[daryn]

woot. 4-0.

these 2 out runs are really hurting the cards.


also there was that cardinal error at 3rd /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Toro]

The Cards are finding out what Red sox fans and American League opps already know. There are no easy outs in this line-up.

[daryn]

exactly. doesn't mueller usually bat 9th (in AL games)?

batting champion batting 9th, ha!

[Clarkmeister]

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The Cards are finding out what Red sox fans and American League opps already know. There are no easy outs in this line-up.

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Sorry, but the Cards problems right now have essentially nothing to do with the other team.

[Lazymeatball]

Clarky, about that avatar. Is there any real animosity against Boston in St Louis, or are you just trying to rile up all the Sox fans on this board?

As far as I'm concerned, I like the Cardinals, respect what they have done this season, and hope they lose.

[daryn]

yeah, i have no hate for the cardinals also.

[daryn]

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The Cards are finding out what Red sox fans and American League opps already know. There are no easy outs in this line-up.

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Sorry, but the Cards problems right now have essentially nothing to do with the other team.

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yeah except for the fact that we keep hitting the ball past your fielders with men in scoring position. pesky sox.

[Clarkmeister]

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Is there any real animosity against Boston in St Louis

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No. However, there is substantial irritation with the way the media, ESPN in particular, has fallen all over themselves to ejaculate over everything Red Sox. Particularly with the portayal of them as some sort of gutty underdog, you know, what with their $120mm payroll and all. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[daryn]

that's the way we feel about their yankee coverage. can you really say the media/announcers favor the sox over the yankees? no chance i think.

[daryn]

way to work the count pedro.

[Toro]

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Is there any real animosity against Boston in St Louis

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No. However, there is substantial irritation with the way the media, ESPN in particular, has fallen all over themselves to ejaculate over everything Red Sox. Particularly with the portayal of them as some sort of gutty underdog, you know, what with their $120mm payroll and all. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Uh oh, you've officially given up when you mention the $120 m payroll.

[daryn]

yeah you can tell he's lost something. i mean he doesn't even reply to my posts anymore.

[Clarkmeister]

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Is there any real animosity against Boston in St Louis

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No. However, there is substantial irritation with the way the media, ESPN in particular, has fallen all over themselves to ejaculate over everything Red Sox. Particularly with the portayal of them as some sort of gutty underdog, you know, what with their $120mm payroll and all. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Uh oh, you've officially given up when you mention the $120 m payroll.

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I'm just trying to helpfully answer the question. I could stop if you like.

[Toro]

No of course not. I hope you're not so thin skinned that you won't indulge Sox fans waiting 86 years(no I'm not that old) a little trash talking.

[Clarkmeister]

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I hope you're not so thin skinned that you won't indulge Sox fans waiting 86 years(no I'm not that old) a little trash talking.

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Not at all, especially since I saw the tumbleweeds rolling through the Game 1-4 Yankee-Red Sox game threads. Knowing that it's a bunch of heartless frontrunners doing the trash talking actually makes it pretty easy to deal with. The Houston fans at least were there from start to finish, even when it looked bad.

[sublime]

pedro looks great

actually AWESOME, condisering he is 5 years past his prime, washed up AND at vaunted bush stadium.

i think its the geri curls

[Dynasty]

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Pitch count through four innings:

Pedro: 63

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Pitth count for Pedro:

Through 5 innings: 73
Through 6 innings: 84

The 100 pitch count is often cited as a point where Pedro gets into trouble.

The Cardinals will send Rolen, Edmonds, and Sanders to the plate in the bottom of the 7th. The Sox should have the bullpen ready to go even though Pedro has looked great in the last few innings.

[daryn]

i hope he's not referring to me. i know we're not on speaking terms clark /images/graemlins/ooo.gif but i definitely am on record as saying i still think they can win, even when down 3-0.

fair-weather, i am not.

[Toro]

You sound a little bitter, pal.

[daryn]

yeah sublime, can you believe they are actually playing this game at BUSCH STADIUM??? MAYBE SOME MISTAKE WAS MADE AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FENWAY.. NO WAIT, IT REALLY IS BUSCH!

[Mike Gallo]

Not at all, especially since I saw the tumbleweeds rolling through the Game 1-4 Yankee-Red Sox game threads.

I picked the Cardinals to play the Red Sox before the World Series even started. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

If the Cardinals lose, then people can say the next game becomes a must win.

[daryn]

man these boys are hitting the crap out of the ball. hopefully manny goes yard here for that extra cushion. you know STL is dangerous so i'd like as many insurance runs as possible.

[sublime]

NO WAIT, IT REALLY IS BUSCH!

baseball rulebook pg 109
rule 2745.09

-the word vaunted shall always be included in the same sentance as the location known as busch stadium

[Mike Gallo]

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pedro looks great

actually AWESOME, condisering he is 5 years past his prime, washed up AND at vaunted bush stadium.

i think its the geri curls

[/ QUOTE ]

I think its his audition.

[sublime]

I think its his audition.

he has pitched like this all year, for some reason his first inning or two is tough.

i personally hope he signs here as i pretty much grew up with him and nomar, and nomie is gone /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Dynasty]

An official Taco Bell ticket holder. That's a keeper.

[sublime]

last at bat for ortiz?

[daryn]

yeah, i got nothing but love for nomar and pedro. i have a feeling pedro wants to finish his career in boston, but he doesn't want to be insulted.

[sublime]

its going to be a very interesting offseason regardless of the outcome of the series

[daryn]

yeah it's possible this the last ortiz AB.

[MrGo]

Beautiful play by Rolan/Pujols...that could be big.

[daryn]

i agree, much needed DP

[sublime]

gives em a chance in the last 3 innings. rolen is rock solid

[Dynasty]

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yeah it's possible this the last ortiz AB.

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Ortiz is out. Mienkiewicz is in.

That's the safe play.

[daryn]

i like the defensive replacement at 1st.

[Clarkmeister]

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Beautiful play by Rolan/Pujols...that could be big.

[/ QUOTE ]

This forum desperately needs a "rolling eyes" graemlin.

[MrGo]

It's not over yet Clark..have faith man!

[MrGo]

That little girl says "like" way too much

[Toro]

Does that point to the heavens gesture by pedro mean he's done?

[Dynasty]

[ QUOTE ]
Pitth count for Pedro:

Through 5 innings: 73
Through 6 innings: 84

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Through 7 innings: 98

Pedro will face the weakest part of the Cardinals in the 8th. Womack, Matheny, and the pitcher are due up.

Timlin and Embree will almost certainly be ready to come in during the 8th inning. In fact, it might be best simply to have one of those two start the 8th.

[sublime]

especially considering that buckner is suspect at first and stapleton has a good glove

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[Clarkmeister]

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It's not over yet Clark..have faith man!

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They quit. You could see it when Pujols didn't run hard to first in his last AB. Typical of TLR teams too, see Oakland for further cross-referencing.

I didn't at all mind when Houston was winning games from us in the NLCS because we played well and they played just a little bit better. But this is unforgivable because we didn't even show up.

[sublime]

what a game he pitched

i mean he had his struggles, but damn

[daryn]

great game. 7 innings of no run ball against this lineup! he didn't even have his best stuff, but he got the job done.

i love that he's coming out. no need to let him go over 100 pitches. everyone knows that's when he shuts down and gets sloppy. good job francona.

[Toro]

Anyone else love this guy Leon?

[Clarkmeister]

Boy, Fox is taking selling out to new lows. A live interview with "Leon"??

[MrGo]

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Anyone else love this guy Leon?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he's a moron.

[MrGo]

What would you rather have for your team...lose in the WS or lose in the NLCS?

[Dynasty]

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Anyone else love this guy Leon?

[/ QUOTE ]

The character is funny but we may be at overexposure time when he's interviewed during a World Series game.

[Toro]

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Anyone else love this guy Leon?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he's a moron.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, of course, that's the shtick.

[SnakeRat]

Yeah, my favorite add is the one where he HAS to have is good side toward the camera.

[Clarkmeister]

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What would you rather have for your team...lose in the WS or lose in the NLCS?

[/ QUOTE ]

It's close the way they are playing.

[daryn]

i think that segment was poor.. but the commercials i find funny.

[SnakeRat]

I think that segment was a commercial.

[Mike Gallo]

I agree, its like all of the Red Sox had memorable performances. Ortiz had sick stats, and I think that this post season gained Shilling an entrance to Cooperstown.

Of course this comes from a man very drunk right now /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[daryn]

sure but you know what i mean.

[Clarkmeister]

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I think that segment was ostensibly a commercial.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fox obviously got paid for it.

[SnakeRat]

Speaking of ads.

What kind of slogan is "Clothes make the fan"?
Could they insult our intelligence any more?

[sublime]

Anyone else love this guy Leon?

sure, when i can hear him in the backround while i am taking a piss. not DURING the WS /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[sublime]

Could they insult our intelligence any more?

when you can realize the are, sure. sadly most of america probably doesnt pick up on this /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[daryn]

though i find the leon commercials funny, i'm not even sure what he's endorsing. kinda defeats the purpose of their ad, no?

[Toro]

Great point. I'm racking my brain and can't think of the product.

[nolanfan34]

f this [censored]

I best not play poker tonight...tilt city.

Better stick with GTA3 instead, so I can run some people over with my car...

[Dynasty]

Disclaimer: Posting the link below in no way says I believe the Red Sox are guaranteed to hold onto their 4-0 lead.

Dirty Water by The Standells (http://www.espew.com/cgi-bin/search?searchstring=dirty+water&amp;searchby=song&amp;resu lts=10&amp;search=Search)

Simply click "Play" on option #1 if the lead holds in the bottom of the 9th.

Lyrics (http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/1966/871966.html)

[MrGo]

Funny I predicted this before the series...

STL comes back from 3-0 deficit to win in 7...Talk about a curse then! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MrGo]

Anyone going to catch Nanny 911? lol...That's gayer than AIDS

[daryn]

hey, it could happen.

let's go foulke!


ty dynasty, i have it cued up, just in case they win.

[MrGo]

Hmmmmmmm interesting

[daryn]

slightly. 1 more out baby.

[nolanfan34]

I'm glad I bought beer tonight, and it's good beer.

[ohkanada]

3-0 !

[daryn]

how...


how could he take that pitch?


i love that dirty water.

[Toro]

Actually the Charles River is a lot cleaner these days.

[Clarkmeister]

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I'm glad I bought beer tonight, and it's good beer.

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Could it be that the curse is so cruel that............................

[daryn]

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I'm glad I bought beer tonight, and it's good beer.

[/ QUOTE ]

Could it be that the curse is so cruel that............................

[/ QUOTE ]


maybe, but i don't believe in curses /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm glad I bought beer tonight, and it's good beer.

[/ QUOTE ]

Could it be that the curse is so cruel that............................

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IF they blow this...my gosh, it would be the biggest sports story in the history of baseball, AND IT'S NOT CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!

[Dynasty]

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I'm glad I bought beer tonight, and it's good beer.

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Could it be that the curse is so cruel that............................

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There are only two options.

1. Red Sox win the World Series
2. Red Sox collapse in the most horrific way imaginable (and let the Yankees off the hook)

[sublime]

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif pedro

[andyfox]

Good to hear Pedro say the Sox are not going to relax like the Yankees and that arrogant Sheffield.

That-a-way to up that market value, Petey.

[sublime]

Good to hear Pedro say the Sox are not going to relax like the Yankees and that arrogant Sheffield.

yet the media will continue to insist that he is pitching in NY next year

[Toro]

There will be no collapse but don't be surprised if the Cards win the next game or the next 2 games. I will not be surprised if this thing gets back to Fenway.

[daryn]

he loves that dirty water.

[nolanfan34]

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There will be no collapse but don't be surprised if the Cards win the next game or the next 2 games. I will not be surprised if this thing gets back to Fenway.

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Shoot, not the way the Cards are playing. I'm beginning to be glad that my ticket possibility for game 5 fell through.

[Clarkmeister]

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There will be no collapse but don't be surprised if the Cards win the next game or the next 2 games. I will not be surprised if this thing gets back to Fenway.

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Shoot, not the way the Cards are playing. I'm beginning to be glad that my ticket possibility for game 5 fell through.

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Outstanding thread on a Cardinals message board. I'll summarize:

Poster #1: "They are playing so bad it's like they are throwing the series."

Poster #2: "Proof they aren't throwing the series: There's no way you'd buy off *everyone*, and that's what it looks like out there."

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[mikeyvegas]

Nice Avatar Clark. Great strategy with the reverse jinx.

[Joe Tall]

Wo0T wo0T!

Go D. Lowe!

GO SOX!
-JT

[Joe Tall]

Boy, Fox is taking selling out to new lows. A live interview with "Leon"?? -Clarkmeister

The character is funny but we may be at overexposure time when he's interviewed during a World Series game.
-Dynasty

Wow, for a bunch of smart guys, I'm surprised. The Leon ads are Bud ads.

Do the math.

GO SOX!
-JT