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iNsChris
10-23-2004, 01:21 PM
What all the lingo first?
I know a few but not all.

BB?
SNG?
bullet ? (Ace or two aces ?)
Deuce (pair right?)
UTG (Person who puts down Big bind yeh?)
wheel (straight right?)

So online you click buttons, but if you play in real life you must know when you can check/call/raise/bet etc. What governs your next actions?

How many times can the betting go on for ? (max of three rounds?) what makes it go round three times? if people bet, raise then reraise?

What causes side pots - I once kicked a guys ass with a flush after he had a pair i believe (or two pairs) yet he got his 600chips back or so after i went all in on around 30chips! i only got aorund 60 - 70 chips (some other guy went in also)

Tapping on a table means call (in casinos) yeh?

Thats it for now, have only been playing for few days so sorry if i come across like a right beginner. Its because i am. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

CWsports
10-23-2004, 01:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What all the lingo first?
I know a few but not all.

BB?
SNG?
bullet ? (Ace or two aces ?)
Deuce (pair right?)
UTG (Person who puts down Big bind yeh?)
wheel (straight right?)


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BB - big blind or big bet
SNG - sit n go
bullets - pocket aces
deuce - a two
UTG - person to the left of the big blind and first to act preflop
wheel - A2345 (wins low hand and high hand)

Mangatang
10-23-2004, 01:54 PM
BB = Either Big Blind or Big Bet. It depends on it's context. If talking about position, it means Big Blind (Example: I was on the button and raised preflop, BB called). If you're talking about win rate (Example: 1.4 BB/hr), then it means Big Bet. A Big Bet is the big sized bet on the turn and river in limit games (Example: In a $3/6 game, the big bet size is $6).

SNG = Sit 'n Go tournament. These are usually one-table tournaments online. It's called sit-n-go because there is no scheduled starting time for the tournament. When everyone sits down, the tourney begins.

Bullet = Ace (bullets = Aces)

Deuce = 2 (the card). A pair of deuces is a pair of twos.

UTG = The first person to act (after the blinds) preflop. So UTG is the person to the imediate left of the BB (Big Blind)

Wheel = 5-high straight. A2345. It can win has high hand and low hand in A-5 high/low split games.

In live play, you must wait for the action to get to you before acting yourself. As soon as the person to your right has made his play, you can act (check, call, bet, raise).

At most limit games (at casinos and online) there is a 3 raise maximum. That means that there are only 3 raises allowed per round. 3 raises means that there are 4 bets put in, because the first bet is not considered a raise. Example: On the river, you bet out, the other guy raises you (1), you reraise him (2), he caps it (3). You can not raise any more now, you can only call his 3rd raise. So that's 4 bets put in on the river, 3 of which were raises.

Tapping the table at a casino means you Check. Of course, you cannot check if someone has bet to you.

Greg J
10-23-2004, 02:38 PM
Oh, and what is a troll? I think we might have one.

Rudbaeck
10-23-2004, 03:39 PM
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Oh, and what is a troll? I think we might have one.

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He should find a better paying job. I hear making documentaries is good work for trolls. (Or ogres, as the case might be.)

iNsChris
10-23-2004, 03:43 PM
troll?

So new members arn't welcome to this forum?

You own it do you?

Grow up!

To the others, thanks for help - It seems greg was born knowing how to play poker at a professional level.

Rudbaeck
10-23-2004, 06:20 PM
Oh dear, you were a real newbie. Sorry if I offended you, but we've just had a period of troll newbies and then regulars who have created alternate identities to play trolls.

So, welcome to the forum!

iNsChris
10-23-2004, 06:30 PM
Yeh i'm new, all admins, moderators can probably confirm that if they check logs!

I don't see my questions as stupid spam so don't know how you guys could think im a troll, Seem legit and are legit.

but ok, Moving on

thanks for help all.

iNsChris
10-23-2004, 09:16 PM
Im probably going to start deposting £5 which is around $9

Do you think my chances of improving this and building are good or will i loose it fast on micro limits?

Any tips?

£16 is alot for a book and i'm tight for cash. I know veveryones immediate reaction is "well get out of gambling". But i disagree as i dont believe wasting £100+ to learn is smart!

i think if i played carefully i could build up £5 slowly... but definatly build it up and learn well.

Whats your opinions though?

Rudbaeck
10-24-2004, 06:26 AM
There are some sites that offer deals like 3 books for signing up with a certain poker room. This is quite ok to take advantage of. (Just be sure to not do this for any of the really big cardrooms, where you eventually want to get a rakeback deal. If in doubt, pm me and ask.)

I started my poker career with $20, and have never deposited more. Well, that's not strictly true, I started my poker career with a free $10 that I got at some prima site. But it turned out I had to deposit a minimum sum to then cash out. Chasing various bonuses later on helped to keep my bankroll stable. (I was, to be honest, losing at 0.5/1 for a few months. Casino bonuses and cardroom bonuses helped alleviate that.)

I was lucky enough to have a good friend to borrow books from initially. But getting atleast one introductory text is REALLY important. Try to scrounge up cash, or find a deal for, either Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Jones, or Internet Texas Hold'em by Hilger.

luckydog
10-24-2004, 04:11 PM
Books are a must in my opinion unless you have someone to teach you or enough money to learn the hard way.
The standard advice I have seen around here is to have a bankroll equal to 300 BB (big bets) at the level you intend to play.
This is because everyone has losing streaks and you need enough money to survive them.
Many people have gotten by on less and done just fine but as I say that is the advice I have seen on 2+2.
Most sites seem to have .05/.10 as their low limit but I believe that there are some sites out there offering .01/.02 limit games.
With $9 you would be well funded at the .01/.02 level and if you catch on quickly you can always move up.
I would wait until you have read at least the pre-flop portion of WLLH or ITH before you start playing with your money. You can save a lot by knowing what hands to play in each position.

Luckydog

iNsChris
10-24-2004, 04:48 PM
So Internet Texas Hold Em i should buy?

Or the other book?

WHich has most content, Is for beginners yet makes them become advanced and is well written with good explanations (and maybe colourfull.. "Not boring looking")

Mangatang
10-24-2004, 04:56 PM
Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones is the best book to start out with.

iNsChris
10-24-2004, 05:18 PM
i noticed this book was written years ago?

Would the advice still be ok ? The game hasn't changed i know, but i would have thought new ideas would come into play and new theorys meaning even after this book i am far behind ?

I understand i will need two books to get basics then advanced - After reading amazons reviews it sounds like its a bit to basic ?

Just wondering - Thanks!
anyone here who has read both? If previous posters have i apoligise as i haven't seen you say it, cheers in advanced.

CT11
10-24-2004, 07:00 PM
This books age doesn't matter. The reviews may say it's basic but trust me if your starting out thats a good thing. A lot of the "simple" concepts take a little getting used to. They may be easy on their own but just keeping track of every thing you should be thinking about at once is very difficult at first. Eventually it becomes quick and then you have more things to focus on.

Any new theories coming out will probably be much more advanced. I think the basics won't change until the game structure changes.

I started off with just WLLH and it made be a break even player from the start. I found 2+2 pretty quickly after that and some other books.

I don't have enough hands to tell you I'm a winning player today but I can say I'm pretty sure I'm not a loosing player.

~CT11

luckydog
10-24-2004, 07:13 PM
No one book is going to take you from beginner to advanced.
Your idea of a good (enjoyable) book to read may be very different than mine and I don't really think that any I have read so far I would call entertaining. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I think if I had to pick one to start with I would get Winning Low Limit Holdem (WLLH) but I would also plan on getting Internet Texas Holdem (ITH) and then others like Winning Small Stakes Holdem With Expert Play (SSH) and Theory of Poker (TOP).
Even though the statistics are the same, each book has some differences based on what the author thinks works best so they are all worth a read to find what works for you.
I have only been playing for about two months and although I have a long way to go they have helped me tighten up my game.
The other thing is time. If you were going to learn a sport like soccer you would expect to invest a lot of time practicing what the coach told you. This is no different. You need to practice what you have read and see what effect little changes make in your results.
Best of luck on your poker journey.

Luckydog

MrHorace
10-26-2004, 08:41 PM
Chris,
Mangatang is solid in his advice so if he recommends WLLH by Lee Jones, by all means heed that advice. However, I really liked Internet Texas Hold 'Em a lot. But it is about the sixth or seventh book I've read. It's a good compliment to Ed Miller's Small Stakes Hold 'Em book. ITHE has lots of examples, which I thought were really good.

Good Luck,
Mr Horace