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Entity
10-22-2004, 03:15 PM
Ok, I sucked out, or at least I think I did. Was planning on check-calling the flop, and I know I should've bet it instead. Bad check. That said, do I cap this river against his turned 22, or call against his limped AT?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero...
Huhmare
10-22-2004, 03:17 PM
CAP!
btspider
10-22-2004, 03:17 PM
i think I'd put in a 6th bet and call a 7th. he could have slowplayed AT i guess.

he could have A2 or a slowplayed Ax, TT often enough.
jmark
10-22-2004, 03:32 PM
3-bet the turn?
Entity
10-22-2004, 03:33 PM
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3-bet the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]What hands that raise me on this turn am I ahead of?

Rob
davelin
10-22-2004, 03:35 PM
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3-bet the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]What hands that raise me on this turn am I ahead of?

Rob

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I was thinking that was your thinking as well. BUT because the flop was checked through, perhaps CO doesn't fear Ax anymore?
GrunchCan
10-22-2004, 03:42 PM
Suited diamond broadway cards not including A or T, or a PP.

He's either slowplaying a flopped monster, or still drawing. I doubt he's hooked on to a naked T, he would have bet the flop.
Reqtech
10-22-2004, 03:48 PM
The only thing that beats you is AT. I would most definitely cap the river, what's another buck if he has the T?
jay1313
10-22-2004, 03:50 PM
You raise, he is probably excited about having 3 Aces to begin with. If he has the AT well that is it, but I think he is thinking his 3 Aces are good.
Reqtech
10-22-2004, 03:53 PM
It depends, what kinda read do you have on the villian? He could have a pocket pair that hit the turn (2's) or something like KT when he feels he has the top kicker on his two pair. He didn't raise preflop from the CO, so I wouldn't put him on AT because of that, but that's hard to determine with no read.
sfer
10-22-2004, 03:55 PM
Online this is the easiest cap ever. Live, it's a cap and curse if he 5-bets and is sane.
btspider
10-22-2004, 03:59 PM
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Online this is the easiest cap ever. Live, it's a cap and curse if he 5-bets and is sane.

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How often do heads-up unlimited raise situations come into play when playing 3/6 or 4/8 live poker? I've only played about 1000 hands live and have never even seen a heads-up river go to 4 bets.
flair1239
10-22-2004, 04:02 PM
I think you should cap here. His play is also consistent with Ax.
flair1239
10-22-2004, 04:04 PM
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3-bet the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]What hands that raise me on this turn am I ahead of?

Rob

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I think any Ace does. I also think any Ten does. They could be putting you on a steal just as easy as crediting you with an ace.
bdk3clash
10-22-2004, 04:10 PM
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How often do heads-up unlimited raise situations come into play when playing 3/6 or 4/8 live poker? I've only played about 1000 hands live and have never even seen a heads-up river go to 4 bets.

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One time I saw it go a guy just call the sixth river bet with KKK99 and lose to 9999K.

PS-The guy was me.
sfer
10-22-2004, 04:12 PM
Dunno how many hands I've played live, nor do I have any sense how many hours. But, I've been involved with more than 4 bets:

preflop-twice
flop-3 times
turn-once
river-once

The best was when sthief09 5-bet me on the flop once then checked the turn and said, "I'll take my free card now." He had unimproved AK. I had bottom pair. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
sfer
10-22-2004, 04:13 PM
I've been the guy with 7777K going a total of about 20 bets on the turn and river nailing some guy's KKK77.

PS, you missed 2 bets.
Entity
10-22-2004, 05:02 PM
It doesn't take much to realize how terribly you misplayed a hand.

Bet the flop, raise the turn (??), cap the river.

I think I missed 2 bets overall, maybe 3. Ugggggggggly. Villain had 22 and I really should've capped the river.

Rob