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TheHip41
10-22-2004, 12:01 PM
Motor City Casino 5-10 Live

Lady is not good.

I have J /images/graemlins/heart.gif 9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

4 callers, i check


Flop J /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

I bet, Lady on my left raises, all fold to me, I call.

Turn 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I check, Lady bets, I raise, Lady calls

River 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

I bet,


How does this look

jt1
10-22-2004, 12:09 PM
I assume you were in BB and the SB folded. looks fine, but my standard play out of position would be to to re-raise the flop and lead the turn and river. If the lady is a LAG you can do what you did, but you might be missing out on a LAG flop cap. I hope you aren't asking this because you were afraid of any flushes.

Quindle
10-22-2004, 02:20 PM
You bet... expecting call, Lady raises, you call.

You don't fold top two pair for one more bet.

Lady at 5/10 is surely not SO bad as to play a worse two pair, and would no doubt call you with AJ, KJ but balance of probability (i.e. worse than 50/50 at this stage) lies against making it three on the river.

Fat Nicky
10-22-2004, 02:25 PM
I 3-bet the flop, then lead the turn.

Quindle
10-22-2004, 02:42 PM
You'd three bet multiple callers, but being heads up changes everything.

A jack is a classic limping hand for loose players and any limped J that raises BB is a) ahead or b) hit two pair.

So you call the raise, intending to bet out the flop in the absence of A, K, or /images/graemlins/spade.gif. Then you hit both your kicker and a flush so you go for a quite reasonable checkraise which now beats both a) and b) above and has outs to the flush.

bisonbison
10-22-2004, 03:21 PM
routinery. I can't imagine any river action short of her flipping her cards over that would make me fold.

Jonny Melon
10-22-2004, 03:34 PM
I'd usually play this the exact same way.

I don't like 3-betting the flop. The likelihood you are behind to a bigger jack or 2-pair is quite good, without a read that BB is a LAG. Very few players would raise from UTG in a multi-way pot with less than top pair.

Easy turn C/R. No reason to put UTG on a flush draw or a free card play, the way she played the flop. Against a very passive opponent, you may want to bet out, as they may check this through fearing the flush.

Good value bet on the river. I'd put your opponent on a lone pair of jacks.

Jon