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jacki
10-20-2004, 12:41 PM
<font color="blue"> Did i get too aggro here? If so, where should I have slowed down?</font>

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB folds.

River: (14.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font>
Rubeskies
10-20-2004, 12:45 PM
Is there any other way to play this?
wuwei
10-20-2004, 01:00 PM
I can't see any reason you would want to slow down here.
jacki
10-20-2004, 01:08 PM
OK good.
I actually took 3rd place honors in this one, behind CO's 88 and MP2's Q9o.
Luke
10-20-2004, 01:46 PM
Well played.

I'd only slow down if raised on the turn or river.

Luke
stinkypete
10-20-2004, 03:05 PM
woops, nevermind. read the board wrong.
Fat Nicky
10-20-2004, 03:11 PM
I don't see a problem. You're most likely not against a flush as they probably would have raised somewhere in there. If you're beat, it's probably against someone holding a 9 who didn't raise because they were scared of a possible flush.

Win or lose, well played.
Shillx
10-20-2004, 03:13 PM
The turn card is very ugly, and unless MP2 has JT/J8, it would seem to me that MP2 has either made a straight or a flush. I would think about check/calling on 4th street.
Fat Nicky
10-20-2004, 03:34 PM
Yes, the turn card is scary because of the possibility of someone holding a 9. But, check/calling is extremely weak given the number of re-draws that are there assuming no one holds a bigger set. Bet this turn every time.
Shillx
10-20-2004, 04:03 PM
You know what, you are probably right. But the main reason why is the size of the pot. If this pot were half this size, I would seriously consider checking and calling.
Malcom Reynolds
10-20-2004, 04:55 PM
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If this pot were half this size, I would seriously consider checking and calling.

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Really? You have 10 outs here. You need 3.7 to 1 to call here, and the pot is already 11.5 BB on the turn. Half that size would be 5.525 BB. With a dangerous board you really don't want to give a free card here. We 3-bet the flop, so checking has a high chance of being checked through if they are fearing a check raise. So betting must be correct, I believe, even at half the pot size.
Fat Nicky
10-20-2004, 04:58 PM
You just lost me. Please explain,