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Chief911
10-19-2004, 06:23 PM
Ok, so played like an addict last night, and today over lunch played SNG #10 and 11. Here's a few hands from the last two:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

UTG+1 (t1165)
UTG+2 (t1745)
MP1 (t860)
MP2 (t1265)
MP3 (t130)
Hero (t960)
Button (t860)
SB (t1115)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t900)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises to t30</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero folds, Button calls t30, SB folds, BB calls t15.

Flop: (t100) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets t125</font>, Button calls t125, BB folds.

Turn: (t350) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t550

Is folding this hand here to a raise in late position weak tight?


Hand 2:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed)

MP2 (t1458)
CO (t1923)
Button (t1102)
Hero (t1365)
BB (t902)
UTG (t1485)
UTG+1 (t1000)
MP1 (t765)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t425</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t902 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t477.

Flop: (t1804) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1804) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1804) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1804

I think once I get this far with this hand I have to call with most anything. Good/Bad/Ugly?

So I finished 5th in this one with this hand. Poor play, or just bad luck:

Hand 3:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed)

SB (t1908)
BB (t2273)
UTG (t3152)
Hero (t1217)
Button (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t1217 (All-In)</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t1450 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t3117) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3117) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3117) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3117



Second SNG:

I have done VERY little up til now, probably only playing 2 hands outside of the blinds when this hand comes up. Again, weak/tight fold? Or good fold quit being so results oriented?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed)

BB (t1085)
UTG (t1670)
MP1 (t925)
MP2 (t755)
CO (t1985)
Hero (t1300)
SB (t2280)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">CO raises to t225</font>, Hero folds, SB calls t175, BB folds.

Flop: (t550) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets t275</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t550</font>, CO calls t275.

Turn: (t1650) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t1505 (All-In)</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: t3155


Hand 2:

So then I mix it up with probably a worse hand with a worse hand, AJ:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed)

Button (t935)
SB (t1570)
BB (t925)
UTG (t755)
MP1 (t2570)
Hero (t1300)
CO (t1945)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 calls t100, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, CO calls t250, Button folds, SB calls t200, BB folds, MP1 calls t150.

Flop: (t1100) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, CO calls t300, SB folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t1700) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t1700) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: t1700

After the cold call preflop and the call of my post flop bet, I was done with the hand to a bigger ace, I thought. Good play to check it down?

Hand 3: This was a defining hand for me. He was VERY quick to push all his chips in after the flop. After thinking about how he played preflop, the only hand that has me beat here really is presto and AQ (Assuming he would have folded his other Qx's). I think if he did hit the house, or have AQ, he would slow down a bit and try to extract trips. So I figured he had AK and missed, or a lower PP.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed)

MP (t610)
Button (t1700)
SB (t2370)
Hero (t2725)
UTG (t2595)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t425</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t900</font>, SB calls t475.

Flop: (t1800) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t1470 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1470.

Turn: (t4740) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t4740) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4740


Coasted from there to the money.

Here's the stats after 11 SNG's on Party's $109's.
Finish
8
9
10
4
4
3
1
1
8
1
5


Avg Finish 4.909090909
ITM 36%
ROI 42%

Comments, criticisms, etc? I think for the first 5 I was being very LAG, and it got me in trouble. Tightened up considerably at after #5, and the results bear that out a bit.

durron597
10-19-2004, 07:30 PM
SnG 1:

Hand 1: On PokerRoom, where the stacks are deeper, I have been trying to loosen up my play by calling small raises with hands like this. I haven't done the math, but IMO 1000 is still a deep enough stack to call a miniraise in level one (but not level two).

Hand 2: If you're going to call an all-in, why not just move in in the first place? Given that you didn't, easy call.

Hand 3: I'm starting to hate pushing with weakly kicked aces. Think about it. There is exactly one hand that will call you that doesn't dominate you: KQ. You would be better off pushing with a middle suited connector where you are likely to have two live outs and isn't as big of a dog to 77. Note: This is not true in SnGs where you think you are likely to get called a lot. If you think K9 will call your allin frequently, then absolutely pushing with A4 is OK.

SnG 2:

Hand 1: I will only call if I have reason to believe that the CO is just looking to steal the blinds with a wide range of hands. Very player dependant call. Note that the CO did not commit himself with his initial raise; you may want to move in on him with this hand. But again, whatever you decide to do here is player dependant.

Hand 2: Don't take this the wrong way, but you played this hand awfully. What a crap preflop raise after a limper. You can't adhere to the 2.5-2.75xBB rule when there's a limper; you have to raise more to kill the pot odds. Your raise is asking you to get involved in a large, multiway pot with a crap hand. If MP1 is likely to be slowplaying a huge hand, I just fold this. Many times I will just call here so that I am playing a small pot that I can get away from. If the table is playing too tight or too loose, I will probably raise this to about 350 however, because in the first case I think I will win the dead money, and in the second case I think I will get called by an inferior hand, and also fewer hands since the raise is so big.

Then, you bet 300 into an 1100 pot, giving anyone else in the hand almost 5:1 to call you, which is a lot. Unless I know you to be a tricky player, I probably move in on the river with my busted flush, since you made a crap bet and checked to me twice (this means you should call on the river against most aggressive players, but you said you were done with the hand).

That being said, your line actually gave you the information you wanted. No one had a better ace, and the CO doesn't have strength. You are clearly ahead by the river, and both you and the CO know it, so you have to bet out, probably all-in.

Hand 3: Standard. You know he doesn't have the queen since people almost never make a massive bet with flopped trips. (Hm... maybe I should do that more often...)

Chief911
10-19-2004, 07:46 PM
Durron,

Thanks for the response. Glad to hear someone critique the AJ hand, as I agree. I was unhappy with myself on how I played especially preflop and on the flop. Amazing that he didnt bet into me on the river with his hand. I think the biggest mistake was not popping harder preflop.

Nick

La Brujita
10-19-2004, 07:51 PM
Edit to say I missed one hand and misnumbered-sorry.

Haven't read any other responses but:

Hand 1:

I think a call here preflop is good.

Hand 2

After your raise it is an autocall but a raise all in in the first place is the better play. Bad guy only has 4.5x bb. Just put him in right there, you are not going to fold to a reraise so put as much pressure on him as you can. You prefer to take this down preflop and giving him no folding equity increases your chances a bit.

Hand 3:

Seems fine to me.
Hand 4:

Read dependent on raiser, absent read fold is correct imo.

Hand 5:

Preflop just push after ep call (unless you fear a monster-but in that case fold don't raise). On the flop you absolutely have to get all in imo, can't let a flush draw get priced in.

Hand 6:

Autocall for me post flop. I don't mind the miniraise here at all.

Just my two cents.

durron597
10-19-2004, 08:19 PM
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Amazing that he didnt bet into me on the river with his hand.

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What did he have? For the record I am positive you had the best hand, so if I am wrong I would very much like to know.

Chief911
10-19-2004, 08:46 PM
He had KK, and I'm sure hated himself for not reraising me preflop. MHIG after a checkdown.

Nick