2/4 limit tables = +$100 day by day

[Wolfy]

it is possible?? at 0.5/1 & 1/2 (PP) i made $50 per day, it takes me 4-5h per day. but at 2/4 i cant make $100/day day by day. is it something wrong with my brain or it is 'mission impossible' to make $100/day at 2/4?

[Entity]

How many tables? How many hours per day?

Also, I hope you mean $100/day on average, because you're gonna have bad days, weeks, months, etc.

Rob

[ChicagoTroy]

That's 25 BB per day. If you put in enough table hours It's possible, but you're certainly going to have days where you're down 250 dollars. So for average profit it's doable, but every day consistency is not.

[Wolfy]

2 tables. $100/ day i mean 'make 100 and quit' this $50 at lower tables i make in average 4-5h at 2 tables. for example i play now 2h 45min, have +36 and when i will have 50 ill quit. tomorow again /images/graemlins/smile.gif but at 2/4 i can make 100 day by day. once, second i made 100 but third i finish on minus trying get 100. maybe 100 its to much on 2/4?

[Entity]

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2 tables. $100/ day i mean 'make 100 and quit' this $50 at lower tables i make in average 4-5h at 2 tables. for example i play now 2h 45min, have +36 and when i will have 50 ill quit. tomorow again /images/graemlins/smile.gif but at 2/4 i can make 100 day by day. once, second i made 100 but third i finish on minus trying get 100. maybe 100 its to much on 2/4?

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If you've set a stopgap on your winnings, you're going to have a tough time on the days that you lose. And you will have days that you lose. You can average 25BB/day at 2/4 if you're putting in 1200-1500 hands/day and you're a decent player, which isn't easy.

Honestly, I don't think monetary goals are that useful. Just play good poker, and the money will happen eventually.

Rob

[ChicagoTroy]

You really need to learn how variance works. You will have horrific losing streaks. Make "$100 and quit" is not a viable strategy.

You should know this from your $.50-$1 adventures, unless you only put in a few thousand hands.

[Festis]

you have a funny way of thinking, get over that.
It is not a smart thing to quit when you are 100+,every time.. You need too think different.. say to yourself..i'm gonna play 4hurs today. Or just play as long as it is fun.

[Wolfy]

its done /images/graemlins/wink.gif 4h 45min +$48 today and quit /images/graemlins/smile.gif from my adventures i know that if i have 6h for tight and patient play at 0.5/1 or 1/2 ill make +50 but cant understand that cant made +100 at 2/4 /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[mike_sharpe]

Dude, you're not going to win every session.

[joker122]

4 tabling with a winrate of 2BB/100 hands will give you an hourly earn rate of ~$19. If you can log 5+ hours a day with this winrate it's certainly possible.

[bdk3clash]

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4 tabling with a winrate of 2BB/100 hands will give you an hourly earn rate of ~$19. If you can log 5+ hours a day with this winrate it's certainly possible.

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It's incredibly easy if you never lose.

[joker122]

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It's incredibly easy if you never lose.

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I'm assuming you have a proven winrate over a very large sample. Why is this hard to believe?

[bdk3clash]

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It's incredibly easy if you never lose.

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I'm assuming you have a proven winrate over a very large sample. Why is this hard to believe?

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I've been doing it the hard way, with huge swings up and not-as-huge swings down. I like Wolfy's plan a lot better--it seems much less stressful.

[joker122]

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I've been doing it the hard way, with huge swings up and not-as-huge swings down. I like Wolfy's plan a lot better--it seems much less stressful.

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I don't see what nitpicking accomplishes here. Obviously one can't expect to make $100 every day, but to average $100/day over a long period of time isn't really that hard at 2/4.

[bdk3clash]

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I've been doing it the hard way, with huge swings up and not-as-huge swings down. I like Wolfy's plan a lot better--it seems much less stressful.

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I don't see what nitpicking accomplishes here. Obviously one can't expect to make $100 every day, but to average $100/day over a long period of time isn't really that hard at 2/4.

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You know this. I know this. Wolfy doesn't. I was just making a joke, which apparently wasn't very funny. Oh well.

[easypete]

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it is possible??

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Yes. It's also possible that Kate Beckinsale is going to search this forum, find some of my posts, fall madly in love with me (site unseen) and my wife will be cool with her stopping by every once in a while for a quickie.

I think everyone thinks like this (about Kate and stopping after you make a set winning).

I don't have a stop limit. I think they only hinder you. $100/day on average is achievable, but leaving a game because you are $100 ahead and have reached your stop limit is just plain crazy.

Only leave a game if the game no longer favors you and your style of play. I've had to do this when I was stuck for over $150 on a 2/4. The table no longer favored me (it did, however, favor me during my $150 loss, but that's variance at work).

I've been ahead over $250 on a table and felt like leaving ahead, but the table still favored me. I made another $100 on that table before leaving.

Setting limits is just that. You are setting a limit. You are limiting your wins.

Remember one thing.... The next 100 hands you play is the next 100 hands you play.

[joker122]

See, this is my dillema. I hate the use of emoticons but in posts like yours they are very necessary.

[ChicagoTroy]

I suspect you're a kid who doesn't know any better, but you'll learn soon.

[ChicagoTroy]

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Obviously one can't expect to make $100 every day

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One would think it was obvious, and it will be to Wolfy soon...

Chi-I beat $2-4 for 4.8/100 and still dropped 90 BB in one day so look out Wolfy-cago

[pudley4]

Can't you all see the forest for the trees?!?!

He has a system! Look at the following information:

1 - It's proven:

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at 0.5/1 & 1/2 (PP) i made $50 per day

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2 - It's regular:

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it takes me 4-5h per day.

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3 - It's scalable:

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2/4 limit tables = +$100 day by day

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Although he hasn't yet achieved his goal, I think I have determined the problem - the 2/4 game is too fishy. It's a known fact that the 1/2 games are tighter on Party, due to a couple of factors:

1 - The 1/2 game is filled with winning players from the .5/1 games and
2 - The 2/4 limit is the lowest limit offered in most B&M rooms, so this is where most of the B&M fishies go to play at Party.

Deductive reasoning leads me to this conclusion - he does better against better players. Therefore he should immediately jump to the 15/30 games and win $500/day (by day by day by...).

Problem resolved. No thanks necessary.

[bdk3clash]

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See, this is my dillema. I hate the use of emoticons but in posts like yours they are very necessary.

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I'm in the same boat. I guess for stuff that isn't self-evidently sarcastic I'll use /images/graemlins/tongue.gif, though if everyone assumed I was being sarcastic all the time they'd be about right.

The winking smiley ( /images/graemlins/wink.gif ) is just too lame for me to use.

[MrDannimal]

It's easy. Find a table (or two, in your case) where the avg. pot size is ~$35. On each table, play break-even until you win one bigger than average pot. At that point, you should have around $140 (assume std. $100 buyin for Party 2/4). You are now +$80 ($40 each table). Win 1 $20 pot (should be very easy with the avg. pot ~$35).

Bingo, $100!

Repeat daily.

Seriously, you can't take the view of "I'll play until I win X and then quit." Not only will there be days when you don't win at all (let alone win X), but if you're playing on a great table, and you win $100 in 30 hands, why on earth would you get up?

You play as long as you are confident you're beating the game, and don't need to stop for external reasons (wife wants the sex, baby is screaming, it's 9am and you're late for work...). If you're confident you're a better player than most (or all) at the table, you should keep playing even if you're down $100 because some fish called 4 cold with 72o against your AA, then called 4 more when the flop came A7x, called again when the turn was a 7, and then beat you on the river's case 7.

[cnfuzzd]

no one has really answered your question yet....


DONT QUIT YOUR JOB!!!

your welcome

peace

john nickle

[krishanleong]

Yes, you can make 100$ a day at 2/4. All the advice posters in this thread have given is also correct. You should learn to play more tables.

[asymmetrical]

On another forum I used to hang a lot in (music related, not poker...) we used to use the * to indicate sarcasm.

But we were a lot smarter than everyone here, so....








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[joker122]

But explaining that a statement is sarcastic takes away the effect of sarcasm I think. It's a hopeless situation that lends itself to the the limitations of e-communication. Oh well.