Not the desired results for Clarkmeister and me

[andyfox]

But if you like baseball, you gotta love both Championship Series games tonight. Electrifying baseball.

[Clarkmeister]

To repeat from another post, never underestimate TLR's fucko factor.

I seriously hope we get rid of him ala Baker. He's a free agent this year, let him go and give Jim Tracy a fat contract, you know the Dodgers won't.

[andyfox]

Hey, I think Torre screwed up both last night and tonight.

Supposedly the Dodgers are happy with Tracy and will sign him. But who knows, LaRussa has greater marquis [sic] appeal; maybe they'll end up trading places.

[Clarkmeister]

I've read they'll give Tracy a smallish 2-year deal. We could give him 3 or 4 at a real rate.

Another reason to get rid of TLR is to get rid of Duncan. We have a lot of young arms to develop and it's been.....forever......since Duncan developed a young pitcher. He's great at rehabbing the old guys, but we need him to be good with the young guys right now.

I liked Torre bringing in Rivera for 2 innings yesterday. I wasn't as wild about his bullpen management today though.

All I know is that anyone who intentionally walks a guy with 2 strikes on him, especially with an ump who has a totally random strike zone, is a moron and deserves immediate termination.

It's irrelevant, I think TLR is Jocketty's guy for whatever reason. As long as we don't lose Jocketty, he's the stone cold nuts.

[andyfox]

I thought it was a mistake as soon as Rivera came in yesterday. You've been successful all year with Gordon in the 8th and Rivera in the 9th. If Gordon gets in trouble, then you go with Rivera (like he had to in the 8th tonight). He brought Gordon in for no good reason in the 7th tonight. The Yankee pitchers are just walking too many guys at key moments. But give the Sox credit, they're a bunch of good hitters.

Yeah, Duncan comes with TLR. The only catcher to become a pitching coach. An intentional walk with two strikes is indeed a crime against humanity.

BTW, doesn't look like I'm coming out this weekend. Hopefully I'll be watching the Yankees and Cards in the Series. But things are getting kinda shaky. If Boston wins tomorrow, who'll start for the Yankees on Wednesday? Kevin Brown? Feh. They'll probably be forced to go with Vasquez.

Everyone's been calling me a worrywort all year. But I think the Yankees could make history this week. And not the good kind. The nail is fighting back. Someone (can't remember who, but a Yankee fan) told me early in the year that Gordon would be great all year and then fail in the clutch in the post-season. Right on the mark.

[Clarkmeister]

Don't worry Andy, the nail always loses. It's what nails do.

Unfortunately, this isn't the first time that TLR has taken a prohibitive favorite in the postseason and potentially blown it.

That said, we have been untouchable at home so far this postseason. I still think we've got a great chance.

[JimRivett]

Shouldn't it be Clarkmeister and I? Not I, Jim, but I, Andy, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I'm really enjoying the playoffs, very exciting stuff.

Jim

[Sooga]

no, it's 'me'.... like saying 'not the desired results for me' or 'not the desired results for I'... adding Clarkmeister into it shouldn't change it... I think.

[andyfox]

"Shouldn't it be Clarkmeister and I?"

That is the kind of criticism up with which I will not put.

[andyfox]

The bells are ringing,
For I and my gal.

Jim's wrong. And he's an Englishman. But I love him anyway.

[JimRivett]

In American english, it may be me, however in English english it's definitely I.

Jim

[andyfox]

OK, so when I'm talking about disappointing cricket results, I'll say it was not good for Lord Clarkmeister and I.

[shemp]

No dawg. It's that whole objective case thingy. Same in both languages, whether differing in the idioms or not.

PS Who is this Clarmeister person I keep hearing about, and did he really fan on a bet like a humungous pussy?

[Sooga]

Ho ho! Well done! Jolly good!

[mikech]

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Shouldn't it be Clarkmeister and I? Not I, Jim, but I, Andy, if you know what I mean.

And yes, I'm really enjoying the playoffs, very exciting stuff.

Jim

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Here's an easy way to check this grammar problem, just take out the other person's name: "Not the desired results for ... me" vs. "Not the desired results for ... I"; looks like Andy got it right.

A lot of people think "so-and-so and I" is always the right construction, and they end up saying things such as, "Here's a picture of my wife and I on vacation in Thailand" when in fact it ought to be "a picture of my wife and me." Again, just take out the other person and you'll hear how jarring it would sound: "Here's a picture of I on vacation in Thailand."

[Ulysses]

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In American english, it may be me, however in English english it's definitely I.


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(Clarkmeister and) I did not get the desired results.
Not the desired results for (Clarkmeister and) me.

[The Dude]

El Diablo strikes again! Ole!

[andyfox]

You've hijacked this thread and turned it into a friggin' grammar lesson.

[The Dude]

You just accused yourself of hijacking your own thread.

[shemp]

Well, there's still that alleged nasty unsubstantiated rumour about clark being a bitch.

[andyfox]

I don't think so, but what do I know, I'm crazy worrying about the Yankees. I think I'm going to have a coronary embolism tomorrow.

[JimRivett]

Was there a baseball game played tonight?

Sorry about your thread Andy.

Jim

[andyfox]

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Just sent you an email.

[Uston]

the nail always loses. It's what nails do.

The only difference between the Sox and Cards is that in the LCS, the Cards get hit with a different hammer every few years.

[Clarkmeister]

No, the difference is that from time to time the Cards actually win it all. Boston fans are the only ones in the world that think nearly 100 years of losing gives them a right to be arrogant.

It was much quieter without the Sox fans the last few days, where were you all when your team was lying down Bob Knight style? Almost enough to make me root for the Yankees, I tell ya. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Phat Mack]

That is the kind of criticism up with which I will not put.

My only wish is that John Cole wanders by and sees the above sentence. Andy, you have made all 2+2ers proud!

[goofball]

almost but not quite

[Toro]

Andy, why does Torre keep pitching to Ortiz? He's the only one beating you guys.

[andyfox]

The only one who's handled him well is Rivera. We have no lefty other than Heredia, and he's terrible. And we have no fireballers to pitch him up and in (other than Rivera).

Last night he was the lead-off hitter in the 8th. You can't walk him. And in the 14th there were men on 1st and 3rd. You can't load the bases.

[danderso8]

Shouldn't that be "Me love him anyway?" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[maryfield48]

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Shouldn't that be "Me love him anyway?" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Shouldn't that be "Me love you looong time"?

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Shouldn't that be "Me love him anyway?" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Shouldn't that be "Me love you looong time"?

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Shouldn't that be "Me sucky sucky for five dollah"?