ROI and ITM Questions???

[polley]

What is a good %ROI and ITM for an "above average" player and what is a reasonable sample size to use-- for the SnG's?
--CoconutCreek

[durron597]

What level are you playing at? Obviously average ROI will be lower for $200+15 than it will be for $10+1.

[polley]

I'm playing at 10-1.. so lets say 10-1 /images/graemlins/smile.gif sorry

[durron597]

I would say that 25-30% ROI in that game is above average (of the group of winning players), and that at least 200 SnGs is a reasonable sample size. People say 100 but it's really not that good (as my own experience can attest).

[willperkins]

Should you seperate PP from Stars when keeping the records? Or can they be lumped together as long as they are 10/1?

[The Yugoslavian]

If you can familiarize yourself with the search function and 'older archives' searching than you can find a TON of information about ROI and ITM (if you are interested in tons of information /images/graemlins/wink.gif )

There has never beena definitive answer on the highest possible ROI for the lower limits but 50% would probably be the sustainable ceiling. More realistically, aiming for any positive ROI over hundreds of SNGs is a good idea. If you feel comfortable, have a big enough bankroll, and a nice ROI (20%+) then you can think about moving up.

There are some nice links in the SNG FAQ on moving up if that is a question that pops into your head at some point.

Currently I am back at 10+1 after a horrible run in the 20+2 SNGs. I have played a bit over 100 10+1 SNGs and have an ROI of 25%. This is a *very* small sample size as you can't be sure about your long term ROI until you've played ~1200 SNGs at any level.

Always remember that due to the nature of poker (so much of it being luck) there are huge short term swings so even if your playing with optimal strategies/tactics/reads, you can very easily have a negative ROI over a few hundred SNGs. Still, aiming for 20% ROI or higher is a good goal.
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[Nepa]

I have played 280 9 players SNG's buy-in+fee 6425.50 Amt. won 7386.30 for a net amt. of 960.80.

ITM 39.29
ave finish 4.83
1st 49
2nd 26
3rd 35

I'm not sure if this is above or below ave. I forgot how to figure out ROI.

B.T.W. this is on Pokerstars

[Daxonovitch]

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I have played 280 9 players SNG's buy-in+fee 6425.50 Amt. won 7386.30 for a net amt. of 960.80.

I'm not sure if this is above or below ave. I forgot how to figure out ROI.



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Net / Buyin+Fee = 14.94%.

[eastbay]

Read the FAQ.

eastbay

[Nepa]

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I have played 280 9 players SNG's buy-in+fee 6425.50 Amt. won 7386.30 for a net amt. of 960.80.

I'm not sure if this is above or below ave. I forgot how to figure out ROI.



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Net / Buyin+Fee = 14.94%.

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I guess I'm better off playing Multi-Tabled tournaments. Here are my Multi Stats.

104 played
Buy-in 1412.
Amt. Won 2488.71
ITM 8.65 Percent
Avg. Players 203.6
Avg. Finish 90.14

Damm I wish I had more time.

[viennagreen]

it depends on what you mean by "better off". If you mean in terms of return on investment, then yes. If you convert that ROI into an hourly return, then perhaps no, depending on how long those multis lasted.